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David Saville

02-04-2001 20:51:33




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I have a spindle that the drag link arm has been bent 90 degrees. I don't know why it didn't break at that time but how can I take it back without breaking it? As this is on a 1917 Titan I don't want to break it on the first try and it is not a good number at my local CaseIH place. My first impulse is to take it to cherry red and then bend it.




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Wardner

02-05-2001 11:14:13




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 Re: bending cast iron in reply to David Saville, 02-04-2001 20:51:33  
Some people have trouble distinguishing between a forgeing and a casting. All ferrous forgeings are steel and that is probably what you have. Take a grinder and generate some sparks on the metal. Do this with some known samples of cast iron and structural steel. You will see that the cast iron produces small red sparks and steel will produce larger yellow sparks.



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T_Bone

02-05-2001 10:20:21




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 Re: bending cast iron in reply to David Saville, 02-04-2001 20:51:33  
Hi David, what you have is cast steel. No problem about heating the part and straighting. It would be best to heat the part to a dull red then apply a small amount of pressure to bend while continuing to heat the piece until it bends. A piece of pipe slipped over the piece will work great as a bender. If you put too much pressure and too little heat the metal will tear and will need to be welded. Keep your working tools off the bores and try not to apply pressure at a bore without first putting a support pin in the bore. The inside of the bend will have more heat applied than the outside so it can stretch.

When the part is straighten, let it cool, then reheat to a dull red and quinch in oil. This adds a small amount of temper to the steel. If you try and quinch without the cool down the part will become brittle and crack.

Take your time and let the metal tell you what it needs. Place the pipe edge at the spot that needs to bend and the part will bend in that spot. If it doesn't bend easy then you need more heat or a different leverage point.

Sometimes the part will tear because it fractured when it bent. In this case just continue to straighten the parts and weld back together, then temper.

T_Bone

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George Willer

02-05-2001 08:29:42




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 Re: bending cast iron in reply to David Saville, 02-04-2001 20:51:33  
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David,
Since your steering part bent without breaking, It probably isn't cast iron at all. Malleable iron looks the same, but it can be forged, bent, slightly drawn, and welded. Your risk from heating red and bending isn't as bad as you might think...even if you break it, it can be welded.

You can do a simple test to see if it is malleable. File a spot to see what color the metal is. Malleable iron will look like steel. Cast iron will be grey.

The photo is of a Cub steering arm that was heated and bent a LOT. It was found to be too long for the new job, so it was shortened by removing a piece and welding.
George Willer

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Haas

02-05-2001 05:56:24




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 Re: bending cast iron in reply to David Saville, 02-04-2001 20:51:33  
Cast iron is not just cast iron. There are many grades of cast iron. Since this bent and did not break, it must be ductile iron. I don't know if you can heat it and bend it back or not, but I like the suggestion of going to a professional.



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Dave BN

02-05-2001 00:31:41




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 Re: bending cast iron in reply to David Saville, 02-04-2001 20:51:33  
Owing to the rarity and delicasy of this I might take it to a shop/foundry. For sure your only going to get one shot at this at best. I understand the pride of doing it yourself but this time I would cheat. Dave BN.



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REA

02-04-2001 22:24:30




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 Re: bending cast iron in reply to David Saville, 02-04-2001 20:51:33  
Hi David: You say this Drag Link Arm is made out of cast iron? I know cast iron will bend but you are right, I don't think that you are going to be able to bend it back without breaking it? I wish that I could see it to get a better idea what you are up against. Can you get the proper dimensions off it and have someone cast another one? Just a thought? Bob



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