Super M Hydraulics

jej12951 · Jan 14, 2016

I have a 1953 Super M serial # 506689L and I think it should be able to support a live hydraulic pump. What is the part # of the pump I should be looking for? Thanks for any help. John

PretendFarmer · Jan 14, 2016

Your best bet would be to find a scrap SM or someone parting one out and get the hydraulics off that. My SM has factory live hydraulics and the Char-lynn power steering option.

D Slater · Jan 14, 2016

L-504802 was the first one available with engine driven pumps. Only difference is yours came without pump and related parts. Two different manufacture pumps were used by IH and several different numbers, all for that application will interchange. Get one to fit a non diesel SM, SMTA, 400, 450, W-6, SW6 and SW6TA. Also some M&W pumps that work on the engine.

DeltaRed · Jan 14, 2016

Was just yesterday looking at Steiner. They had those pumps listed for about $1000. Then you need the port block and other
related parts.

jej12951 · Jan 14, 2016

So, do I need a special valve and external reservoir, also?

DeltaRed · Jan 14, 2016

You will need a reservoir.But,you can use the belly pump as a reservoir.A spool valve is the best to use.You could easily have $1500 in it if all new pRTS WERE PURCHACED. cALL mIKE AT sTEEL wHEELSrANCH. hE CAN SET YOU UP.

CenTex Farmall · Jan 14, 2016

Yeah, they're practically giving them away!

jej12951 · Jan 14, 2016

I can find used ones for 1/3 that price. I would have to take a chance that they would be in good condition, I guess. I'm just trying to decide whether going to the live pump is worth it or not. This tractor has a 3 pt on it and I use it for finish mowing on a regular basis. The belly pump really works pretty good for that application. John

DeltaRed · Jan 14, 2016

A 'mag' pump is definitely worth it.My Super M has one. The SuperH and M each have a belly pump.Both are 'adequet'.But there is NO comparason between the two pump systems. However,I put a spool valve on the Super H. Secured the lever in 'on' position(removed the rod) and returned the oil back to belly pump drain.A vast impreovement over the original belly pump valve.

PretendFarmer · Jan 15, 2016

(quoted from post at 21:22:12 01/14/16) Secured the lever in 'on' position(removed the rod) and returned the oil back to belly pump drain.A vast impreovement over the original belly pump valve.

That's how I run my loader off my H's belly pump. Also adequate.

jej12951 · Jan 15, 2016

When these tractors came from the factory with live pumps, was there a reservoir somewhere by the pulley?

DeltaRed · Jan 15, 2016

Yes,there was a cast iron tank under the gas tank. My SM uses that tank. Holds about 2 to 2 1/2 gallon oil.

David G · Jan 16, 2016

I think a pump off a 400 will bolt right in.

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