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Super M Hydraulics

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jej12951

01-14-2016 07:48:14




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I have a 1953 Super M serial # 506689L and I think it should be able to support a live hydraulic pump. What is the part # of the pump I should be looking for? Thanks for any help. John




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David G

01-16-2016 16:27:18




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 Re: Super M Hydraulics in reply to jej12951, 01-14-2016 07:48:14  
I think a pump off a 400 will bolt right in.



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PretendFarmer

01-15-2016 05:16:40




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 Re: Super M Hydraulics in reply to jej12951, 01-14-2016 07:48:14  
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That's how I run my loader off my H's belly pump. Also adequate.



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D Slater

01-14-2016 08:22:20




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 Re: Super M Hydraulics in reply to jej12951, 01-14-2016 07:48:14  
L-504802 was the first one available with engine driven pumps. Only difference is yours came without pump and related parts. Two different manufacture pumps were used by IH and several different numbers, all for that application will interchange. Get one to fit a non diesel SM, SMTA, 400, 450, W-6, SW6 and SW6TA. Also some M&W pumps that work on the engine.



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PretendFarmer

01-14-2016 07:56:14




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 Re: Super M Hydraulics in reply to jej12951, 01-14-2016 07:48:14  
Your best bet would be to find a scrap SM or someone parting one out and get the hydraulics off that. My SM has factory live hydraulics and the Char-lynn power steering option.



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jej12951

01-14-2016 08:31:18




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 Re: Super M Hydraulics in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-14-2016 07:56:14  
So, do I need a special valve and external reservoir, also?



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DeltaRed

01-14-2016 08:52:52




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 Re: Super M Hydraulics in reply to jej12951, 01-14-2016 08:31:18  
You will need a reservoir.But,you can use the belly pump as a reservoir.A spool valve is the best to use.You could easily have $1500 in it if all new pRTS WERE PURCHACED. cALL mIKE AT sTEEL wHEELSrANCH. hE CAN SET YOU UP.



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DeltaRed

01-14-2016 08:25:58




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 Re: Super M Hydraulics in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-14-2016 07:56:14  
Was just yesterday looking at Steiner. They had those pumps listed for about $1000. Then you need the port block and other related parts.



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jej12951

01-14-2016 09:40:47




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 Re: Super M Hydraulics in reply to DeltaRed, 01-14-2016 08:25:58  
I can find used ones for 1/3 that price. I would have to take a chance that they would be in good condition, I guess. I'm just trying to decide whether going to the live pump is worth it or not. This tractor has a 3 pt on it and I use it for finish mowing on a regular basis. The belly pump really works pretty good for that application. John



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DeltaRed

01-14-2016 12:22:12




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 Re: Super M Hydraulics in reply to jej12951, 01-14-2016 09:40:47  
A 'mag' pump is definitely worth it.My Super M has one. The SuperH and M each have a belly pump.Both are 'adequet'.But there is NO comparason between the two pump systems. However,I put a spool valve on the Super H. Secured the lever in 'on' position(removed the rod) and returned the oil back to belly pump drain.A vast impreovement over the original belly pump valve.



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jej12951

01-15-2016 06:54:08




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 Re: Super M Hydraulics in reply to DeltaRed, 01-14-2016 12:22:12  
When these tractors came from the factory with live pumps, was there a reservoir somewhere by the pulley?



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DeltaRed

01-15-2016 19:14:58




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 Re: Super M Hydraulics in reply to jej12951, 01-15-2016 06:54:08  
Yes,there was a cast iron tank under the gas tank. My SM uses that tank. Holds about 2 to 2 1/2 gallon oil.



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CenTex Farmall

01-14-2016 09:23:27




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 Re: Super M Hydraulics in reply to DeltaRed, 01-14-2016 08:25:58  
Yeah, they're practically giving them away!



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