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mike morton

10-10-2015 14:16:47




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I am working on this h and I believe it has a 9 speed that is missing some parts. It has a lever on the left side of the transmission housing that says M&W on it. Any information about this would be helpful. Thanks




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D Slater

10-10-2015 17:00:34




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 Re: farmall h 9 speed in reply to mike morton, 10-10-2015 14:16:47  
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If it's like this you will have to look inside to see what's up.



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Janicholson

10-10-2015 14:47:45




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 Re: farmall h 9 speed in reply to mike morton, 10-10-2015 14:16:47  
A good sized lever (on the size category of a TA) it might be a Hand clutch. These disconnected the left bull pinion from a special pinion shaft to allow the tractor to stop with the trans turning (kinda like a live PTO) Jim



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mike morton

10-10-2015 14:53:14




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 Re: farmall h 9 speed in reply to Janicholson, 10-10-2015 14:47:45  
It is a short lever about 6" long looks like it would have linkage attached to it. If I can figure out how to post a picture I will. Thanks Mike



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Janicholson

10-10-2015 16:26:39




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 Re: farmall h 9 speed in reply to mike morton, 10-10-2015 14:53:14  
If it has a connection to linkage into the trans it is a 9 speed. No guarantee parts are in the trans though. Jim



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mike morton

10-10-2015 17:27:02




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 Re: farmall h 9 speed in reply to Janicholson, 10-10-2015 16:26:39  
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There is a rod through the housing that is in mesh with a shifting fork that is in the bottom of the transmission housing. I haven't taken the top cover off yet just took off the belt pulley gear box and looking in through there. It appears that it has 2 rods that it is sliding on.

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Janicholson

10-10-2015 19:00:00




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 Re: farmall h 9 speed in reply to mike morton, 10-10-2015 17:27:02  
Tickle the components you see in this icture. Sliding them (just a tiny bit) o the slid shafts will tell you if they are stuck there, or if the control lever is frozen. Do not pry things to force movement!!. I would change the oil as it is water contaminated. The gears look great though. Forth/Fifth slider, and the splines on the input gear are an indication that fifth has not been abused. Jim

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mike morton

10-10-2015 14:55:11




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 Re: farmall h 9 speed in reply to mike morton, 10-10-2015 14:53:14  
Also I can not get it to move



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mike morton

10-11-2015 14:34:49




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 Re: farmall h 9 speed in reply to mike morton, 10-10-2015 14:55:11  
I am assuming that this is not the M&W unit but is the Heisler brand,and if so where can I find a manual for it?



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D Slater

10-11-2015 18:39:07




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 Re: farmall h 9 speed in reply to mike morton, 10-11-2015 14:34:49  
No it looks like the M&W model 119. Don't know where to find a manual. M&W made 3 types for a H. Seems like the one you have is not common. Don't know if those where first design or not. Others used a shifter on right side or a cable shift. Only seen one model 119 out of a tractor and only 3 others in a tractor. From what I remember the shift fork shaft has a detent ball and spring on the ID. Looks like yours is shifted into normal range. If the shift fork is free to slide you need to let the gears turn some for gear locking teeth to mesh when shifting sometimes.

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mike morton

10-11-2015 18:48:53




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 Re: farmall h 9 speed in reply to D Slater, 10-11-2015 18:39:07  
Thank you. I am going to remove the top cover for better access tomorrow and I will let you know how it turns out.



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mike morton

10-12-2015 17:39:31




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 Re: farmall h 9 speed in reply to mike morton, 10-11-2015 18:48:53  
FYI- took the top cover off today cleaned and flushed the housing out, the fork was easy to move after I worked it with a bar so everything inside is good now and all back together. Now I need some info on what the outside rod and handle looks like so I can fabricate or try and find a factory assembly. Thanks for all the help Mike



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D Slater

10-12-2015 18:58:51




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 Re: farmall h 9 speed in reply to mike morton, 10-12-2015 17:39:31  
From what I remember the shift rod was 3/8 diameter steel rod, bent at end to fit shift lever and cotter pin hole in rod. Had another slight bend on up from the end. Had a shift ball on the end about the same size as the high low range shift lever on a MF 135 etc. Steel strap with a hole for rod to pass trough was used near upper end. Can't remember where the bracket bolted though. Somewhere on the steering post or light bar I think.

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mike morton

10-12-2015 19:10:44




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 Re: farmall h 9 speed in reply to D Slater, 10-12-2015 18:58:51  
Thank you



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