Seeking knowledge on my (1962?) Ford Industrial Backhoe/

Hello everyone, just joined Yesterday's Tractor Forum today since I'm the proud new owner of a 1962? Ford Industrial Backhoe with Front loader. I'm looking to gain any knowledge about the specifics of my Tractor anyone would want to offer. It has a 4 cyl. gas engine. On the Block, just behind the Starter Is a small corrosion pitted area which I hope Isn't partially hiding the following two rows of "Stamped" numbers. The Inner row closest to the block Is 1300 The outer row Is 6859. On the Ford's Left Front loader Arm Is an Aluminum Tag with 2 rows, the top row Is I I I 8 The lower row Is I 9-335. (The last 2 sets of # start with the letter I, not numerical 1) My Transmission's "Casting Number Is 310835 with another row of numbers below that which Is partially hidden by the frame. I'm assuming that since this Is a factory Backhoe with removable Backhoe attachment, they've got a plate over the PTO & there's no brackets for a 3 point hitch. I'm wondering If the PTO has to be Inoperable or can I remove the plate & add a PTO as an additional option? Also, since the Backhoe attachment Is removable did It come with quick disconnect hydraulic hoses for easy removal & reattachment? Where Is my Frame SN? I'd also like to see any close up pictures you would be willing to post that would show me the routing & location of my missing power steering hoses since both are currently cut to nubs & my Backhoe attachment has no connecting hoses. (Along with any other close up pictures that would assist me In converting the various rigged BS back to factory set up. Such as, my battery Is not mounted where it belongs, the Solenoid Is rigged there instead, the entire fuel system Is rigged with a temporary gravity feed lawnmower tank strapped to the lift arm with an extra long gas line & Inline petcock but the tank Is there, (Is the original tank supposed to be gravity fed or does this model have a fuel pump & where It It located? There's a terribly rigged remote choke, the gas pedal Is not connected & no return spring but the throttle lever does work, It starts right up & runs If you play with the rigged choke cable, the gravity feed causes It to Instantly flood & drip gas out the carb throat If you fail to close the petcock when shutting It down & there's no breather setup. I think Mr. Haney may have been the last owners mechanic but It was extremely fair priced & seems really solid, just needs lots of Un-Rigging & factory setup restoration with TLC The Backhoe arms come In 10', 12' & 14' reach, this one has 14' reach. By the way, I'm located In Bonne Terre Mo. Feel free to spill your guts & share any Info &/or close up pictures of specific areas In question you may have on my Tractor. Thanks In Advance.























This post was edited by PlowboyJim on 08/18/2022 at 11:42 am.

The 1300 number you found is probably
missing a leading 4 and should be 41300
which is a 4130 light industrial tractor
years 1963 or 1964, the 0 on then end
means no PTO. Actually it could be a 2130
which had the 134 engine whereas the 4130
had the 172 engine look real close for the
missing number or look at the engine block
casting code to tell the difference. The
other number there is the serial number
but you are missing a digit there too,
should be 5 digits.

19-335 would be a 725-series loader and
1118 the loader frame serial number.

The backhoe would be a series 723 but I
doubt it is the 14 ft model, those were
usually installed on the Heavy Duty
Industrial. Yours is probably the 12
foot, which refers to the max digging
depth.

There's no easy/inexpensive way to add a
PTO and 3PH unless you swap the whole rear
section. You would also need the engine-
mounted hydraulics pump and manifold.

My 1968 723 parts book lists 19-340 as the
hydraulic kit for 2130 and 4130 with 725
loader but doesn't have the diagrams, just
says to refer to parts book pa-9368 group
5-1. Normally they did not have quick
disconnects from the factory, but that
could be rigged if desired.

I hate to be pessimistic but to get your
TLB back to really nice shape might be
more work and expense than it's worth.

(quoted from post at 13:16:38 08/18/22) The 1300 number you found is probably
missing a leading 4 and should be 41300
which is a 4130 light industrial tractor
years 1963 or 1964, the 0 on then end
means no PTO. Actually it could be a 2130
which had the 134 engine whereas the 4130
had the 172 engine look real close for the
missing number or look at the engine block
casting code to tell the difference. The
other number there is the serial number
but you are missing a digit there too,
should be 5 digits.

19-335 would be a 725-series loader and
1118 the loader frame serial number.

The backhoe would be a series 723 but I
doubt it is the 14 ft model, those were
usually installed on the Heavy Duty
Industrial. Yours is probably the 12
foot, which refers to the max digging
depth.

There's no easy/inexpensive way to add a
PTO and 3PH unless you swap the whole rear
section. You would also need the engine-
mounted hydraulics pump and manifold.

My 1968 723 parts book lists 19-340 as the
hydraulic kit for 2130 and 4130 with 725
loader but doesn't have the diagrams, just
says to refer to parts book pa-9368 group
5-1. Normally they did not have quick
disconnects from the factory, but that
could be rigged if desired.

I hate to be pessimistic but to get your
TLB back to really nice shape might be
more work and expense than it's worth.

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Thanks for all the Information, much appreciated.

Hello Jim welcome to YT! This may be helpful, it is the
manufacturers online parts diagrams. It will open to
the 4130 Industrial model. If you determine you have a
different model you can enter it at the search at the
top and it should show up in one of the results to
choose. CNHI is what the current company calls itself,
FIAT is someway involved with the ownership. CaseIH,
New Holland and not sure what else are covered by
them. The IH part is where I fit in, I am a red tractor
Farmall guy.
CNHI Ford online parts diagrams

(quoted from post at 22:47:08 08/21/22) Hello Jim welcome to YT! This may be helpful, it is the
manufacturers online parts diagrams. It will open to
the 4130 Industrial model. If you determine you have a
different model you can enter it at the search at the
top and it should show up in one of the results to
choose. CNHI is what the current company calls itself,
FIAT is someway involved with the ownership. CaseIH,
New Holland and not sure what else are covered by
them. The IH part is where I fit in, I am a red tractor
Farmall guy.
CNHI Ford online parts diagrams

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Thank you very much Red Tractor Farmall Guy, that's a handy link to have since there's so many things I'm currently unfamiliar with & need to take care of. I've been told that my model of Backhoe Is the only one the factory Included both a Gas pedal & a throttle arm & I'm in need of the first linkage rod that connects to the gas pedal It's listed as parts 69,70 & 71 but ordering the part Is no longer available according to the website