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Crawlers, Dozers, Loaders & Backhoes Discussion Forum

International Dresser? 175 c?

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dwragon

12-29-2020 00:12:11




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I have, from what I can glean, a 175 bucket loader. My problem is that the previous owner, now deceased, cut a cab off of it even with the dash. It had a black plastic in cab shield, similar to black rv pvc, and I am wondering if this was to protect the used from an incab hydraulic line failure (skin injected with hydraulic fluid). I cannot find any ID plates on it and I think they were cut off with the cab. It has the 175 C counterweight at the rear, and Dresser on the front at the radiator, but had IH stickers on it when I first got it about ten years ago. one of the things that is driving me crazy is that the fuel tank is completely square, not rounded. Any info on these concerns would be appreciated.

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dwragon

01-02-2021 20:19:37




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 Re: International Dresser? 175 c? in reply to dwragon, 12-29-2020 00:12:11  
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LOL, thats a good one. reminds me of a modern equivalent I read about,

A semi got stuck under a bridge stopping traffic, about 15 people got called to the scene, and they were just about to decide to get a crane to lift the bridge up, when an engineers son tugged on his Dads pants leg and then whispered in his ear. The engineer said, why dont yall all consider what my son has to say. When everyone looked at the boy he simply said, why dont you just let the air out of the tires.

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AJ.

01-02-2021 00:49:15




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 Re: International Dresser? 175 c? in reply to dwragon, 12-29-2020 00:12:11  
Fair enough, that reminds a story my father told me about this man who had a mule and wanted to take some gravel from a nearby quarry to his house using the mule and cart, between the quarry and his house the road went under a railway bridge, when the man did not come back his neighbour who was helping him went to check and found the man at the bridge with a hammer and chisel hacking two grooves in the bridge arch, what you doing Jim asked the neighbour, I'm cutting two grooves so the mules ears can pass through as they are two high, would it not be better and easier if you lowered the road under his feet says the neighbour, don't be silly says Jim it's is ears that is too high not his feet.

Happy New Year to all

AJ

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dwragon

01-01-2021 21:32:26




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 Re: International Dresser? 175 c? in reply to dwragon, 12-29-2020 00:12:11  
To all, thank you for the help. After I get back to the States (I am in the Philippines in Covid quarantine right now.), I will post picks. I need to get the 175C running to use to built 3 ponds on my farm. Once I have it running, I will need to figure out what it takes to make it turn, which was the reason I never used it. I was told that to replace the steering clutches (Water upon inspection plate removal.) I had to disassemble the entire rear end, and another person told me that the cables might be too tight, but one thing at a time.

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dwragon

01-01-2021 21:19:41




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 Re: International Dresser? 175 c? in reply to dwragon, 12-29-2020 00:12:11  
The 175 is located in Shreveport La.



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dwragon

01-01-2021 21:17:10




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 Re: International Dresser? 175 c? in reply to dwragon, 12-29-2020 00:12:11  
JM. On thinking about it, as what you are saying is true, the injector pump being on the left hand side when sitting in the seat, and getting gaskets for a 466 (based on the location of the injector pump) it is a 175C. In regard to the tank, considering the way it was cut, and I mean in a straight line (Doors, everything!!!), if they cut off the tank in that same line, it would explain the square tank now, I just never though about it.

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dwragon

01-01-2021 20:15:55




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 Re: International Dresser? 175 c? in reply to dwragon, 12-29-2020 00:12:11  
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Unfortunately, the deceased owners own daughter told me that he intentionally cut the top off because it would be cheaper to transport it that way (on a regular flatbed trailer rather than a dozer capable lowboy?), as he had bought it by auction from in the Dakotas and transported it to Louisiana. He used it to destump about 25 acres of land after the pine trees had been cut off of it, then it sat with the injector tip broken off after he broke it trying to pull the plugged injector. I pulled the tip out with a piece of allthread, but also pulled out the copper sleeve, so I had to pull the head. After I pulled the head, water leaked around the new injector and locked up the engine.

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MikeJM

01-01-2021 19:06:41




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 Re: International Dresser? 175 c? in reply to dwragon, 12-29-2020 00:12:11  
dwragon, just curious, where are you located?

My late uncle had a 175 and a TD15.



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jm.

01-01-2021 18:32:50




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 Re: International Dresser? 175 c? in reply to dwragon, 12-29-2020 00:12:11  
OK Lets figure it our , first you determine if it has a ih 407 pr 466 engine. The way you figure that out is tell me which side of the engine the injector pump is on. If it is a 407 will be a b series . 466 a c series. The Dresser on front can be from repaint at some time that was common. Now walk right up like you were going to squat down and hug that counter weight . Right where you right hand fingers reach the serial number will be stamped vertical in the back housing. Other words look at the right rear sprocket and right behind the rear of the r=track on the back edge of the square housing scrape the paint and find the serial number. Or post a photo and I will tell you what you >have.

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AJ.

01-01-2021 09:51:06




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 Re: International Dresser? 175 c? in reply to dwragon, 12-29-2020 00:12:11  
Maybe it was a low bridge that cut the cab off as I find it hard to believe anyone would cut off the ROPS system as in most places it is a legal requirement especially if doing any public work, fuel tank may have got damaged too and was repaired.

AJ



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Jacks

12-30-2020 15:18:34




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 Re: International Dresser? 175 c? in reply to dwragon, 12-29-2020 00:12:11  
I have a 175C from 1973. It has Dresser name on the front and sides but that may be from a repaint. The castings all say IH. I replaced all of the hydraulic hoses near the operator station as they were old and cracked and would be dangerous if one ruptured. All of the 175C's that I see have a rounded top on the fuel tank. Don't know of they used a different style tank on units with a factory cab. Mine has a DT 466. They make good farm machines.

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dwragon

12-30-2020 20:38:24




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 Re: International Dresser? 175 c? in reply to Jacks, 12-30-2020 15:18:34  
Thanks, Jacks, from what I was told by the deceased owners family the owner cut the top off so it could be transported. The unit may have been a forest fire fighting dozer, as that is the closest pick I have ever seen to my model. This may have been the reason the tank is different, as the cab apparently enclosed the tank (Dont know if I would have wanted to be inside the cab and fighting fires in it with that configuration.) The word Dresser is cut into the radiator support/guard (Doesnt mean it hasnt been changed out.), but had IH stickers everywhere else. The inside of the cab area has steel tubing instead of rubber hoses. I had the unit running about 8 years ago, and the engine is now locked up from sitting, so I will have to get that delt with. The next thing is getting it to turn. I was told that the cables may be too tight. Hoping for help with that also.

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