International 500e dozer wont move?

Hi , recently bought a international 500e dozer that will not move. The previous owner said that the left side froze up and would run in circles and then after sitting the right side is locked now also. The machine will run. I was curious to see if there is anyway to free the machine up so it will role so I can get it moved.. I am new to this site and these machines but only payed 500$ so I thought I would take a chance. Thanks for any advice.

I have had experience with locked up finals on international crawlers. The first rule is do not force anything by engine power, or pull push
efforts Very expensive parts made from cast iron will break.
First determine if water has gotten in the final drives. Crack the drain plugs to assess this. Water is bad, it will rust bearings, and lock
them up. No water go to next step. Water drain flush, refill. then next step.
Next: find out what is siezed. It must be in the finals, possibly the track brakes (hope for this).
Using a johnson bar (biggest longest pry bar you can find) to move the dozer forward where it sits will allow analysis of motion. Once
forward, mark the drive sprockets with a marker in a way that allows clear observation of movement. Now pry the tracks rearward. Absolutely
no movement indicates that the issue is in the track drive sprocket, shaft, or bull gear. Some movement, like 1/4 inch or so, indicates that it
is in the clutches, bull pinion, or pinion shaft bearings. What you take apart to fix it depends on analysis, not random disassembly. Bogies
on the undercarage are not likely able to prevent movement, but could. Best of luck, Jim.

thanks for the reply although i am a bit taken back by all of that as my next move was gonna be to try and drag it. As it sits the cover is off of the left steering clutch assembly? (from the previous owner i assume trying to troubleshoot the problem) under the seat, so rain had been coming in. When u say water drain flush refill, where exactly on the machine are you talking about and should i use water to flush? sorry again its a new toy for me and i am green on the topic, its my first dozer.

drain the final drive cases to check for water---flush with diesel fuel and refill with oil---the steering clutches may be froze up also---drain any water you can out of them and then let soak for a week or more in diesel fuel
You should obtain an owners/maintenance manual

Water in the clutches can rust the brake bands to the drums. Water in the finals rusts gears and ruins ball bearings. So cracking the drain plugs until some oil (or water) comes out tells you whether you need to completely drain and refill as dpendzic indicates. I do not have direct knowledge of that particular dozer, but a broken ball bearing will wedge between the case and gears and break the final drive housings. Jim

it is my understanding that the bearings on the final drive pinion shaft were a weak point on the 500 series machines
look for metal particles when you drain the final drives

i have a manual on its way and the clutch housings are currently soaking in diesel. i only have a few weeks to get this machine moved as the land owner has sold the farm. once it is at my house i fully intend to tare it complete down. i was hoping i could just get it to role so i could get it home if not i may have to lift it on a trailer somehow

To move it onto a trailer, find a moving company that has a flatbed that lowers to the ground. Jack one side and block it with wooden cribbing under the tracks near the
drive and front Idler sprockets, to the same height as the contracted trailer. Jack toe opposite side to the same height. Put W14X38 Wide flange I beams sideways under
the tracks at the drive sprocket, and in front under the front main wheel. use solid concrete blocking (solid not w/holes) under the I beams to support them and keep
them from tipping. Grease the top of the I beams. Winch the crawler evenly sideways onto the trailer sliding it on the greased I beams. Is this easy? no. but costs
less than broken parts, and removes the time window deadline panic. Or higher a machinery moving company. The crawler weighs a little less then 11,000 pounds. Jim
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a steel floor tilt tray flatbed with a good winch, or snatch blocks, will be able to drag that machine right up onto its flatbed
you will have to jack up the blade and chain it up.It would help if you could get a steel plate under the tracks so they are sliding steel on steel

Hire a truck with an 8 ton crane on it and he will load and transport it for you,lift it on and off without causing any more damage,those little dozers weigh less than 6 ton.
AJ

(quoted from post at 06:26:46 07/27/20) Hire a truck with an 8 ton crane on it and he will load and transport it for you,lift it on and off without causing any more damage,those little dozers weigh less than 6 ton.
AJ

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Thanks, the left side came free! I am letting the other soak in diesel for a few more days, I am hopping this works so I can just roll it on a trailer.

(quoted from post at 06:32:46 07/27/20)

(quoted from post at 06:26:46 07/27/20) Hire a truck with an 8 ton crane on it and he will load and transport it for you,lift it on and off without causing any more damage,those little dozers weigh less than 6 ton.
AJ

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Thanks, the left side came free! I am letting the other soak in diesel for a few more days, I am hopping this works so I can just roll it on a trailer.

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Update.. after the clutch housing soaked in diesel for a few days a tug from the tractor broke it free and I was able to roll it on the trailer. As for damage I will find out when I take it apart, although it doesnt seem like anything broke... now thats its broke free should I attempt to drive it to see if it will move? I plan to drain the finals again to make sure of no metal shavings. Will my clutches that have been soaked in diesel for a few days even work now? Thanks for the help!

Great news!!--Looks like they weren't stuck very bad--yes i would start it and see if the clutches will disengage and engage, then applying the brakes will heat every thing up and disapate some of the diesel on the discs