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Crawlers, Dozers, Loaders & Backhoes Discussion Forum

Manual Transmission question

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Olnate

02-14-2020 11:49:31




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I have a Parson's 77-L rubber tire backhoe (1960's era). Might be the only one in existence (no pictures or literature on the internet). The transmission is a borg/warner T98-1R 4 speed manual transmission. I will need to take it out this spring and either do some major repairs or replace it. The backhoe has a shuttle shift that the transmission connects to, a driveshaft to a large rear pumpkin. Most T98 or T18/T19 are from half ton trucks, 1 ton trucks etc... My question is can I put a vehicle transmission in to replace this one or is there specially geared ones out there. Is the RPM reduction coming out the shuttle shift or is it accomplished in the tranny or rear pumpkin. Just want some more info before I work on this project.

Sure could use a service manual but impossible to find.

Thanks for your help

Nate

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Jim.ME

02-16-2020 04:48:11




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 Re: Manual Transmission question in reply to Olnate, 02-14-2020 11:49:31  
From your first post it sounded like the transmission was bolted directly to the rear of the shuttle with a drive shaft from the transmission output to rear end. If that is correct I would approach it as the splined input shaft of the transmission would be a slip fit into a coupling inside the shuttle. I would expect the drive shaft would be removed and if there are any transmission to frame mounts, they would be removed. Then the transmission mounting bolts holding the transmission to the shuttle would be removed and the transmission would slide back and out of the shuttle. I am thinking that interface is what you are calling linkage into the shuttle. Is that thought correct or is there something else there? You can always post a few photos if there is something else you are referring to.

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Shaun Wallace

02-15-2020 20:46:32




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 Re: Manual Transmission question in reply to Olnate, 02-14-2020 11:49:31  
I may have extra T98. Cant gauretee it. Have to look.



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Olnate

02-15-2020 16:09:35




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 Re: Manual Transmission question in reply to Olnate, 02-14-2020 11:49:31  
Thanks for the replies. Looks like if need be should be easy to find. I plan on trying to fix this one, it might be too far gone though. Drain plug has a chip with a 3 inch crack, would need brazing. The index pin by the shifter is gone, broke the top part of the casing. Can't get it in 4th gear.

One more question, the drive shaft looks easy to take out, is it an easy process to remove from the shuttle. Is it as simple as removing the bolts an pulling the transmission backwards or is the linkage into the shuttle more complicated?

Appreciate your help on this.

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Nordic

02-14-2020 19:19:13




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 Re: Manual Transmission question in reply to Olnate, 02-14-2020 11:49:31  
I've had a few backhoes (not your make though) with 4-speed and shuttle shift... they, however, only had 4 gears forward as the shuttle put it in reverse. I believe 4th was direct or 1:1 ratio. Reverse, however, was 15% overdrive. You wouldn't think of taking your current tranny in to be repaired?



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Jim.ME

02-14-2020 12:07:47




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 Re: Manual Transmission question in reply to Olnate, 02-14-2020 11:49:31  
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My thoughts are the transmission is most likely the same a one from a truck. The reduction would be in the rear differential (and planetaries, if it has them). Once you have the transmission out you can turn it by hand to check the gear ratio of each gear.



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