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Crawlers, Dozers, Loaders & Backhoes Discussion Forum

Cat 54 winch problems

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Bruce(OR)

02-13-2020 15:48:18




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Biggest problem is loose nut behind steering handles. . . 54 Winch with power shift trans. // 1977 D4 Cat

I finally got the 3/4 inch cable out and now trying to get the swedge out of the drum. Any idea on that one?

Does not power out. Is it supposed to?
Does not free wheel without engine running. Is it supposed to? Seems to free wheel with handle pushed all the way forward. Cable adjust? Where? Fluid fill? Check? type? Anywhere that might have a manual on this device? Thank you in advance!!

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crookedwrench

02-16-2020 19:17:48




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 Re: Cat 54 winch problems in reply to Bruce(OR), 02-13-2020 15:48:18  
I would suggest that you replace the 3/4 winch cable with a 5/8. Check with local rigging contractors for slightly used cables. I have 3/4 cable on my Hyster D4F on my direct drive D4D. It will feed out very well. Free spool is generally a disaster. I got a very supple cable from my local rigging contractor, but if I was doing it again, I would go with 5/8



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Bruce(OR)

02-17-2020 12:52:41




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 Re: Cat 54 winch problems in reply to crookedwrench, 02-16-2020 19:17:48  
I thought about that. The winch is rated 52,000 pound. 3/4 cable is rated 58,000 The only time that winch will reach that rating is on the first wind of wire on the spool. I am also trying to wife proof this. . .



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Jim.ME

02-14-2020 05:05:56




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 Re: Cat 54 winch problems in reply to Bruce(OR), 02-13-2020 15:48:18  
I suggest you contact your Cat dealer about winch manuals. From my experience with Cat equipment in the past and getting parts for my 426 recently; have the serial number with you when you do. There may be three manuals for the winch. Parts, Service, and one that may be called Testing and Adjustment or Operator's Manual.

You may be able to access the Cat parts catalog for your winch here
https://parts.cat.com/en/catcorp/PartLookup

You may be able to access the Cat manuals to purchase for your winch here
https://catpublications.com/

I doubt it has power out. If it has hydraulic controls, Free spool may require hydraulic pressure (engine running) to release the brake. Wish I could help more but the Cat winches I worked on were the old mechanical ones for cable blades and scrapers, not like yours. And it has been many years so details in the memory bank have faded some. What does the cable swedge you are trying to remove look like (photo?)

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Bruce(OR)

02-14-2020 19:47:30




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 Re: Cat 54 winch problems in reply to Jim.ME, 02-14-2020 05:05:56  
Thank you. Thank you for the links!!
I got the operation manual ordered. It might get me an idea where to start. I hope that winch has power out. I don't think it does and 3/4" cable at a pound a foot gets heavy fast. I already know I will be the cable puller and she will be sitting in the seat. Giving me orders. Yes dear. The cable swedge, I believe, at 8 pm at night, should be a case of smack it into the drum and hopefully it will fall into an hollow drum center. Twist cable and remove. Okay. I will shoot with some real penetrating oil. Then smack it a few times before the manual shows up. . .

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ArleninOr

02-14-2020 22:59:39




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 Re: Cat 54 winch problems in reply to Bruce(OR), 02-14-2020 19:47:30  
Bruce, call Marv at Northwest Tractor in Boring. He might be able to help you. Parts out a lot of Cats.



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Bruce(OR)

02-15-2020 05:52:35




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 Re: Cat 54 winch problems in reply to ArleninOr, 02-14-2020 22:59:39  
Hi Arlin. I have a feeling this 1500 pound winch is about to put me through my paces. Thanks for the info!



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