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Hello all,
Im considering on trading my Ford 801 select o speed with a loader on it for an old dozer that needs work or been sitting for years. The 801 needs the carb cleaned and other wise runs well. I have seen several old dozers sell for $1500 or so, pretty much just to get rid of them. Is the 801 worth $1500 or is that too high. As I said it runs well, transmission is an updated select o speed with no issues and a heavy duty trip bucket loader. fair trade or not?
 
any dozer over 10 years old run because it will cost big bucks to keep them running very expensive toy
 
Yea, Im drawn to the old ones and one day I may regret it. I dont know much about them, besides the cat had a pony motor and I think the a c dozers take 2 batteries to gettem cranking. I love to wrench on the old rust but I have heard parts are tough to get. Thanks for the tip
 
I have 3 old Cats from the mid 50's era---It really wasn't that hard finding any parts that I needed--surprisingly Cat had a lot but used parts are quite avaiable--the cheapest machine i bought was $2100 and the most expensive was %3500
 
I would suspect your 801 should be worth more than that. those selecto trannys aren't popular but if yours is updated then that's a plus. location does make a difference on price. what dozer are you looking at. you need to do a research on the net on any dozer before you buy it as parts for some are really hard to find and can be very expensive. I suspect if some one has an old dozer that has been sitting for some time they probably would welcome the trade depending on what it is and the condition of it.
 
Be careful by what dozer you are going to buy as there is a lot out there that tracks are no longer made for,you won't get much of a dozer short of 10k if you want one that will work,the track life left on a dozer is very important and they are often worn out and are the reason why the dozer is for sale,you need an experienced man that knows dozers to check one out for you,this thing about buying a machine that needs fixing up can be a big expensive mistake, parts are so dear if you can find them,if it's that easy and cheap to fix em up the seller would have done it so he could get more for it so he thinks it's uneconomical to do it up that's why he's selling his trouble,buy a machine that's ready for work not not ready to scrap,buy a decent dozer that will do the job for you and you can sell it on when you no longer need it,my 2 cents worth.
AJ
 
Find and make friends with an old crawler operator/mechanic. Have him look over any machine you're interested in, then buy him and his wife a real nice steak dinner for his advice. It will be the best money you ever spent (if you follow his advice).
 
I agree, but theres not many old timer operators around where I am. Most the ones I know wouldnt get in a piece of equipment that didnt have air. An they dont do the mechanic side, just wanna brag that they can run anything better then the last or next guy. Im fairly knowledgeable of the old stuff and the internet is very helpful. Thanks for your tip!
 
this is the Cat d47u that i bought for $2100--fixed some odds and ends, new canopy roof and painted it


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Very nice, I really like the D4 cats and it seems to be in my trading or price range. The wide tracks and overall machine fits my interest. Congrats on yours!
 
Ok, my Massey Ferguson MF200 track loader is equal to the D2 in size. An Id like to find a rusty old dozer like the D4 or Bigger to trade my tractor for.
 
I have a D4 7U, but you couldn't give me a select o speed. Think I'll keep the D4. It tips the scales with a Cat blade right around 14000.

Rick
 
The big difference in the D-2 and the D-4 was the roller frame. The D-2 has the roller frame held by the bearing you see on the side in the middle of the roller frame. When that bearing gets bad the tracks run off as the frame does not stay aligned with the sprocket.
The D-4 however has what looks like a huge rod bearing connection underneath on the back end with an arm that is welded as part of the roller frame inside the roller frame under the tractor,this comes back to that huge rod bearing looking spot underneath the tractor in back. It will have a grease fitting on it. That was a much better method for holding the roller frame aligned with the sprocket. Dad's is a mid to late 30 's d-4 never had a problem with alignment of the roller frame. It has a swinging drawbar on it also. We plowed with it for 50 years.
 
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