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Reversed DC for Chuck

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Case Nutty 1660

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I Bet I know at least one guy who knows this one VERY Well,, its a great mod and I am betting still used often to this day
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Like CM, I had never heard of the reversed transmission. And I'm still not clearly following how it was done by the dealers. I read the post by TractorTucker about how the pinion shaft was turned over so that it would be on the opposite side of the transmission output. I have a VAI here, but have not paid any attention to the differential housing casting. Being able to flip the pinion shaft, does that mean that the pto shaft would be removed to install the pinion, then mount the rear of the differential to the torque tube?
 
Another one that was being used Daily when I was there looking at this Great Collection in 2013
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Rod was trying to get out of the pic here,, sadly this is the only shot I got of the "FLOATER DC"
 
All you have to do is swap/flip the ring gear assembly to the opposite side of the pinion and you get the reverse gears that was forward before,, this was done a lot in the 50's and 60's many many hay pusher trucks were made around here by a couple local machine shops the same way but on them you just turned the rear axle over to get the same affect,, we used to have a SC tri-cycle front with a loader on it,, when Dad sold it the guy who bought it had it switched over and then used it to set pallets of shingles on roofs, it had a early Farmhand high lift loader on it, with it turned around it was just like a forklift in operation and with that tri-front it would turn on a dime, and with the rear wheel then carrying the load it was very stable,
 
That is such a cool idea. I'd like to try that one of these days. I've got lots of uses for a forklift. Thanks for explaining. By the way, how is your brother doing? I hadn't seen anything posted about him in a while.
 
Tom,

Moving the pinion doesn't work on a DC, you have to have the special transmission that is in the parts book. I had to do the change over on my DCS. Don
 
I looked over the transmission from every angle I could think of and it wouldn't work. Now, I was going from a reversing set of gears to a regular set of gears, so you may be right.
 
pretty much the same trans/rear end as a SC and we sure swapped things around on it,, so if it wont work why not? I am pretty sure the one I posted was done by the current owner,, I will dig out a parts book and see if I can find what you are speaking of,, are you sure its not just on a DCS due to the drop housing? interesting info,,
 
I might be wrong Tom, but I doubt Case would have designed special transmission gearing only for the limited number of DCS changed to reverse.
 
The one pictured above is reversed and it does work. The transmission needs to be a mid serial number transmission that low gear is removeable from the shaft so the ring gear goes in the place low gear was. There is no low gear after reversing.
 
think it works fine on late models Don, He and I was texting about it lol,, sounds like the early ones had a gear cut on the shaft, while later ones have a shaft and gear as two pieces if I was getting it in my head right anyway,, do you have a DCS or DS part book? I need to do some searching for one as I do not have one,, I do remember after we was talking the SC had to have a part removed to make it work,, 1st gear was in the way when its flipped,, but for a loader app you really do not need 1st
 
look at the spinner knob in the pic here, it is mounted to a hyd motor and that in turn steers in with a hyd cylinder on the axle hooked to the wheels if I am thinking right,,
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Tom,

I had a novel experience with the DCS. It was a pile of junk when I bought it. When we got done rebuilding it, we towed it to start it and the fan turned backwards, in 3 gears. People here said it was just the pinion gear turned, but it wasn't just that, there were different gears in different places. Then I found a reference to a reversing transmission option, either in a parts book or price book, I can't remember which anymore, but it proved there was a special reversing transmission available. I still have it on the shelf. Don
 
Okay, I thought that was what the spinner was for but I wasn't sure. Now I want another DC to turn into a forklift. Maybe if someone doesn't buy my Farmall M.
 
M's can be reversed also. Actually might work better because you can keep all 5 gears. A neighbor copied my Case and did his M. High center of gravity of the M is the only problem.
 
Certainly would make sense they offered it,, like you say the Cane units alone used for loading would have been worth it,, I assume you just replaced what was missing or in the wrong place and it works correct in normal fwd, Case offered a good amount of special app units,, even back to steamers,,
 
I really don't have time or money for another project but it sure would be useful, if no one buys it before I have time then I guess I have a use for it.
 
We had to replace everything from a donor DC transmission Tom. The reverser setup is completely different. I'll try to find the documentation. Don
 
So you was able to use your housing but had to swap out shafts and gears ect,, I can see that,, what a job that had to have been,, assuming you had to pull the drop housings and all to do it,, have you posted your DCS here yet Don? cant remember seeing it but I am betting I have some where
 
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