Case 530 gas with loader - what year?

Catydid22

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We need some help figuring out what year the family Case 530 loader is. The SN plate is missing. I have read the forums and tried to decipher it myself, but I don't understand some of the terms. We took it to a mechanic for loss of hydraulic power. The first time we used it after, the transmission was rough and it jammed halfway into reverse. Stuck in front of the barn door with no way to move! We need to buy the manuals and work on it ourselves because a call to the mechanic gave me even less confidence in him. And he has our Minnie-Mo U - it's like having your child ill with a doctor you don't trust! Loader has: G159B water cooled, utility wheels, 3 pt hitch (solid arms), throttle lever with accessory foot throttle, individual gauges, attached fenders, dual range S-4F-R, power steering. No draft-o-matic symbols, no toolboxes, only engine sticker. Engine cast says A35425, frame cast says AS7800. Thank you for any help.
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Looks like a 541 model of the 530 series. is there a serial plate on the engine slightly back of the oil filter at the bottom of the engine block. That can bring the date a little closer. Also go to CNH parts.
 
I can't be sure what year your 540/541 tractor is but the transmission shifter is the same 1 through 4 speed. Your tractor is
stuck in 2 gears, the way you describe it the interlock plug (#16 VT2000 sub to A29060) is worn. The purpose of these interlock
plugs is to prevent the rails from entering an incoming gear until fully out of the outgoing gear i.e. if you are shifting from
1st or 2nd gear into reverse or vice-versa the interlock plug will prevent the the incoming gear rail from fully engaging that
gear until the outgoing gear rail is fully disengaged. The same thing applies to the 3&4 rail with the other 2 rails.

Go to the link, this is the basic shifter for 530 series as well as many other Case tractors. Find #16 interlock plug. The
rails are from left to right reverse, 1&2 gears, and 3&4 gears. The interlock plug between reverse & 1&2 rails usually gets the
most wear. Also less frequently the mesh lock balls (#17) and mesh lock springs (#18) can get worn and shifter can jump out of
gear into neutral. Mesh lock balls are just 3/8" bearing balls available many places.

1 & 2 pics are what I just tried to explain above (forgot I had it) read up on it, better than my rambling.

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Pic 3 is basically what you see when you pull the shifter cover, for orientation only to show position of forks/rails,
interlock plugs and mesh balls & springs.
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Pic 4 is a worn interlock plug and relatively good condition interlock plug that I removed from a tractor that was stuck in two
gears, reverse and 1&2 shift rails. If you have this condition swapping the interlock plugs will get you reliable shifting
between reverse and 1 & 2 gears until you can replace the worn plug.
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Also we need more pics of the tractor showing dash/gauges, left side of the tractor from front of carb to mid transmission, and
your transmission shift pattern as well as the shift pattern on the cover forward of the transmission where the battery is
mounted.

Joe
https://partstore.caseih.com/us/parts search.html?csid 188c736b515505d119f67ea22e7ab5d7&sl EN&currency epc::mr60192ar750218
 
Thank you Joe(WA)! My internet went down after I posted, so I had to drive into town this morning to check the responses. I did take the shift cover off last evening. (Please excuse any non-mechanical terms.) The forks were definitely jammed, I got it out of gear and put it back together. It would move forward one time and stall the next, it always stalled in reverse. One fork had a tine that looked chewed up, blunt and ridged. I am sure the bearings need replaced but had no idea they existed - I'm no mechanic. Your post will definitely help me get started.
I wanted the year/estimated SN to get a shop manual and parts. I will try to add pics, some I have already on my phone. Hopefully my internet will be back on once I get home.
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Thank you for the suggestion to check the online parts - its helping me understand what is meant by some of the special features the forum discusses.
 
There are three 530 sets on the title page although many parts are the same there are changes by serial nr. The link I posted is for the early 1960 -1964 ag & utility tractors. The othe two are later DOM models. If you haven't already found that check the link.

That fork looks like it should clean up ok. Check that none of the forks is bent. Reverse fork is the most likely to be deformed.

I wanted to know the shift pattern on the cover under the battery to determine if this lever is dual range or triple range. Also a pic of the other side just forward of the foot clutch pedal is there another lever?

I don't have much experience with tractors 1960 & later except where they have commonalities with other Case tractors like your transmission.

Joe

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My internet is still not behaving, esp with this forum and pics (even tiny ones). Thanks to your advice, I decided the loader was in the latest grouping. I believe I have the tractor even narrowed down to between 8312174 and 8365950 based on an extra bracket in the seat suspension and the full fenders. I learned about other options and configurations along the way.
I have ordered the interlock plugs and some manuals. Thank you!
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Doesn't the end number mean basically row-crop front "1" versus a wide front "0"? Does wide-front, standard axle, and utility tread all mean the same thing?
 
I got the plugs picked up, but I can't get the set screws out. I thought they would be regular hex heads. What am I missing? The book just says vaguely to remove them.
 
Yes, once I cleaned it up better I realized that was probably what I was seeing. Now we also know that the engine serial number is higher than 2244027. I got it fixed! All gears work! First gear hadn't worked in a couple decades. I sincerely thank you Joe (Wa) and this forum. I would not have even known where to begin without your help.
 
(quoted from post at 01:35:43 06/18/20) I can't be sure what year your 540/541 tractor is but the transmission shifter is the same 1 through 4 speed. Your tractor is
stuck in 2 gears, the way you describe it the interlock plug (#16 VT2000 sub to A29060) is worn. The purpose of these interlock
plugs is to prevent the rails from entering an incoming gear until fully out of the outgoing gear i.e. if you are shifting from
1st or 2nd gear into reverse or vice-versa the interlock plug will prevent the the incoming gear rail from fully engaging that
gear until the outgoing gear rail is fully disengaged. The same thing applies to the 3&4 rail with the other 2 rails.

Go to the link, this is the basic shifter for 530 series as well as many other Case tractors. Find #16 interlock plug. The
rails are from left to right reverse, 1&2 gears, and 3&4 gears. The interlock plug between reverse & 1&2 rails usually gets the
most wear. Also less frequently the mesh lock balls (#17) and mesh lock springs (#18) can get worn and shifter can jump out of
gear into neutral. Mesh lock balls are just 3/8" bearing balls available many places.

1 & 2 pics are what I just tried to explain above (forgot I had it) read up on it, better than my rambling.

<img src="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto47685.jpg">

<img src="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto47688.jpg">

Pic 3 is basically what you see when you pull the shifter cover, for orientation only to show position of forks/rails,
interlock plugs and mesh balls & springs.
<img src="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto47690.jpg">

Pic 4 is a worn interlock plug and relatively good condition interlock plug that I removed from a tractor that was stuck in two
gears, reverse and 1&2 shift rails. If you have this condition swapping the interlock plugs will get you reliable shifting
between reverse and 1 & 2 gears until you can replace the worn plug.
<img src="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto47691.jpg">

Also we need more pics of the tractor showing dash/gauges, left side of the tractor from front of carb to mid transmission, and
your transmission shift pattern as well as the shift pattern on the cover forward of the transmission where the battery is
mounted.

Joe
https://partstore.caseih.com/us/parts search.html?csid 188c736b515505d119f67ea22e7ab5d7&sl ENcy epc::mr60192ar750218



Hey Joe, that is one heck of a post! Well done sir!
 
(quoted from post at 17:57:49 06/18/20)
That fork looks like it should clean up ok. Check that none of the forks is bent. Reverse fork is the most likely to be deformed.

<img src="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto47764.jpg">

Well, it stuck in reverse again. How do I know whether the reverse fork is deformed? It does look like one tip is ground down, with burrs off the edge. How would you repair that? The dealer says the fork is $400 and not ever in stock.

Thanks in advance!
 

By the pics that is a DOM tractor, it has the return tube over top of the transmission and I can see the DOM quadrant in the one pic, show the rear if you can get a pic of it, it also has the latest steering cylinder set up.
 


They were rebranded as 570s when the 70 series came out, very late 530 if it has 530 decals on it.
 
Same tractor was rebranded as a 570 when the 70 series came out. A shot from the rear should show swinging ball type draft arms and upper sensing linkage.
 
I think we already figured out that it is a 541 with a serial number between 8312174-8365950. Maybe I was supposed to post this under a different topic, but I already had the pics here and we talked about this problem. What I need to know now is if the reverse shift fork is the new problem.
But I'll get that pic anyhow if I can- we have a huge suitcase on it I'll have to aim around.
 
(quoted from post at 15:32:14 08/31/20)
(quoted from post at 17:57:49 06/18/20)
That fork looks like it should clean up ok. Check that none of the forks is bent. Reverse fork is the most likely to be deformed.

<img src="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto47764.jpg">

Well, it stuck in reverse again. How do I know whether the reverse fork is deformed? It does look like one tip is ground down, with burrs off the edge. How would you repair that? The dealer says the fork is $400 and not ever in stock.

Thanks in advance!
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(quoted from post at 17:57:49 06/18/20)
That fork looks like it should clean up ok. Check that none of the forks is bent. Reverse fork is the most likely to be deformed.

Is this deformed??
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