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Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full.

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John Saeli

03-04-2020 13:42:45




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Here in Central NY was a CASE dealership started in the 40's, shortly after WW 2. Had been C-IH right up until recently when it got bought by a larger C-IH chain dealership. A good friend of ours who works in 1 of the chain stores is also a long time "CASE guy" who was after anything CASE the new management didn't want. When he would ask to come and take a look, they said "yeah, we'll let you know". Just very recently, last time he checked, they told him "all that old sh't is gone, filled 3 dumpsters". My friend said there were parts, parts books, service manuals and old literature. Our friend didn't want it all for himself, he wanted me to go along, maybe something was there that could have helped any one of us.

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dzc3

03-08-2020 03:24:48




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to John Saeli, 03-04-2020 13:42:45  
Last company I worked for, new owner taking inventory said "throw all this old stuff out" I asked why he said cost me more to count it than its worth. I talked him into not counting it and storing it away. The stuff sold but slowly. I tried to explain that the previous owner had customers that used it. He was about to throw away copper tubing in the original boxes, I said how much for the stack. He said $20 don't know what I will do with it all. I had to smirk when a customer came in asking it.

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big orange

03-07-2020 14:18:06




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to John Saeli, 03-04-2020 13:42:45  
Old heritage means nothing to some, but to take 3 dumpsters and probably destroy all is just plain stupid.



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Ande

03-06-2020 19:09:04




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to John Saeli, 03-04-2020 13:42:45  
I fostered this deal on parts, parts books, service manuals, it took years. But I told them after they allowed me the first time to finally see some of it. That we would work out a deal and it will be cash. I don't have much patients, but I waited, and when it comes to a deal I hold on and keep my mouth shut, and yes I got it all, actually for a fair price. I waited, but it almost drive me crazy. And these pictures are only a small dent in what I received. Right now I don't have time to really look over what I have, but the parts are in dry storage.

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Don Rudolph

03-06-2020 20:48:08




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to Ande, 03-06-2020 19:09:04  
Nice haul Dan. That kind of stuff is getting harder and harder to find. Don



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Ande

03-07-2020 14:30:31




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to Don Rudolph, 03-06-2020 20:48:08  
Thanks Don, it sure does.



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BarryfromIA

03-06-2020 10:39:05




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to John Saeli, 03-04-2020 13:42:45  
They probably worked up value based on the list price and took a write off on taxes.



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Bob

03-06-2020 08:02:28




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to John Saeli, 03-04-2020 13:42:45  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

Seems no less sad that the IH ones couldn't be saved!



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ss55

03-05-2020 22:01:59




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to John Saeli, 03-04-2020 13:42:45  
It's a loss for you and your friend, but look at it from the store manager's perspective. Unless your friend offered some substantial money for the whole lot ($1,000s), and guarantee to remove it all within one day, it really was not worth the extra time and hassle for the store to save any of it.



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Case Nutty 1660

03-06-2020 07:17:26




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to ss55, 03-05-2020 22:01:59  
a long time dealer who started the same year we did in 1966 Gave me every Case parts book they had FREE,, it was going to me or the dumpster they said as they did not want other competing shops in town to have them,, I have over 500 lbs of parts books and binders from the 30's through current Case CE machines, I did not take the cih binders so they went in the dumpster,, it was two pallets full of them,,

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John Saeli

03-06-2020 07:04:08




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to ss55, 03-05-2020 22:01:59  
What you say about "hassle" is debatable. We were not even offered a chance to take a look and make an offer. To most all on this forum, everything was quite valuable, shall I say "invaluable". To the new store manager it was sh't.



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ss55

03-06-2020 08:28:43




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to John Saeli, 03-06-2020 07:04:08  
I suspect your friend had a fair idea what the manuals could be worth to him, but he was hoping to get them for free or next to nothing. Now-a-days people need to make a serious offer up front for those kinds of things it they really want them. It could have taken your friend several weeks to go through three dumpsters of manuals and work up an offer on each individual piece. A store manager does not have anywhere near the time for that.

An offer of $1,000 or more up front for the lot might have gotten some attention, especially if he promised to removed them quickly and save the store some disposal fees. An offer of paying the store nothing while tying up several days of their employees time can't be taken seriously, so they decided they were much better off not ever to let him into the store.

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John Saeli

03-06-2020 10:30:15




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to ss55, 03-06-2020 08:28:43  
You are making baseless assumptions. Bottom line. you got a lot of.....I better stop.



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D-C-741

03-05-2020 18:19:33




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to John Saeli, 03-04-2020 13:42:45  
Sounds like MONROE TRACTOR ???



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ep

03-05-2020 04:33:36




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to John Saeli, 03-04-2020 13:42:45  
Idiots. I remember that same thing happening when the Case an IH merger happened when some small dealers shut their doors. In my opinion when these conglomerates take over a bunch of individual dealerships, customer service suffers.



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Don Rudolph

03-04-2020 16:16:30




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to John Saeli, 03-04-2020 13:42:45  
The corporate mindset. No sense of respect or loyalty to previous customers or sense of appreciation for history. Criminal behavior IMHO



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RBnWA

03-04-2020 19:59:38




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to Don Rudolph, 03-04-2020 16:16:30  
AMEN... RB



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old

03-04-2020 14:10:20




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to John Saeli, 03-04-2020 13:42:45  
Sad that so many have the throw away mentality now days when much could have been worth a lot of $$



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Bob

03-04-2020 13:48:14




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to John Saeli, 03-04-2020 13:42:45  
SO sad when that happens and it has happened time and time again.

To the folks taking over and selling million dollar equipment the old stuff is worth less than nothing, it's just a nuisance.

A nuisance that (apparently) has to be dealt with by destroying it.



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kenbob

03-04-2020 13:47:41




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to John Saeli, 03-04-2020 13:42:45  
Those stories make me sick. My Cousin is a big Allis fan and especially loves CAs. THere was a huge parts warehouse west of Chicago not far from my cousin's home. He went to the warehouse one day after allis was finished and they were closing the facility. THere knew of 6 complete CA crate engines setting there. He went there with the intention of trying to buy one, but they had already sold those and the rest of their parts for scrap.

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Richard G.

03-04-2020 13:47:34




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 Re: Really Sad. 3 Dumpsters full. in reply to John Saeli, 03-04-2020 13:42:45  
That's sick.



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