Gary in Indy
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Question for you guys. I bought a 411b tricycle with a bad engine, but found a 611b with a good engine and wide front. Will the engine, wide front, hood, side rails from the 611b bolt up to the 411b?
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olgentdc
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I THINK It Will , Ask John Saelie for sure ,..I Do know that 30 series starters and engines will not .
Never did this swap so not sure, best to wait for more experienced help.
In the mean time, assuming gas 411B has 148 cid engine, 611B has 164 cid engine. Just working p/n's it looks pretty good for engine swap direct bolt up to torque tube.
Relative p/n's they share for engine swap:
Torque tube p/n G14239
Gasket that seals engine block to torque tube p/n G46840. That indicates torque tube & engine block is likely direct bolt up.
Drive shaft coupling p/n G14118.
Those are the only p/n's I compared, so it is not 100%.
You can go to CaseIH parts catalog, bring up 400B & 600B in separate tabs and do some matching. If major parts are the same p/n, or especially the mating gaskets are the same p/n usually indicates swap with direct bolt up.
Joe
https://partstore.caseih.com/us/parts search.html?csid 8112a9fa97c001cc709871cdf96ea34f&sl EN¤cy epc::model_find
In the mean time, assuming gas 411B has 148 cid engine, 611B has 164 cid engine. Just working p/n's it looks pretty good for engine swap direct bolt up to torque tube.
Relative p/n's they share for engine swap:
Torque tube p/n G14239
Gasket that seals engine block to torque tube p/n G46840. That indicates torque tube & engine block is likely direct bolt up.
Drive shaft coupling p/n G14118.
Those are the only p/n's I compared, so it is not 100%.
You can go to CaseIH parts catalog, bring up 400B & 600B in separate tabs and do some matching. If major parts are the same p/n, or especially the mating gaskets are the same p/n usually indicates swap with direct bolt up.
Joe
https://partstore.caseih.com/us/parts search.html?csid 8112a9fa97c001cc709871cdf96ea34f&sl EN¤cy epc::model_find
BarryfromIA
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There is a deference in the front spindle between the two. Maybe the front castings will interchange.
Gary in Indy
Member
Thanks for the replies.
I already have the 411 and I heard the 164 will most likely bolt in but be a tad longer. I figured the hood and side rails would solve that.
The guy doesn't want much for what's left of the 611 (some parts already sold) and I thought it might be interesting to play with. I was just hoping someone had been there before me so I could learn from them.
If it doesn't work out I guess I'll just buy a 148 for the 411 and the parts thats been stripped off the 611 and the I will have two tractors.......
I already have the 411 and I heard the 164 will most likely bolt in but be a tad longer. I figured the hood and side rails would solve that.
The guy doesn't want much for what's left of the 611 (some parts already sold) and I thought it might be interesting to play with. I was just hoping someone had been there before me so I could learn from them.
If it doesn't work out I guess I'll just buy a 148 for the 411 and the parts thats been stripped off the 611 and the I will have two tractors.......
John Saeli
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Direct swap. Engine lengths the same.
BarryfromIA
Well-known Member
Do you have 411b side rails to sell?
Gary in Indy
Member
Will the front axle swap in?
Gary in Indy
Member
Not at this time but I might have 611 or 411 depending on the swap.
John Saeli
Well-known Member
The 164 is not longer. Same length. Pan gaskets are the same.
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