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I am proud of my old 800! I gave $400 for her back in about 2008. Pulled a New Holland 851 a Kosch double bar mower and a H&S 16 wheel rake for a few years. About 4 years ago I hung a worn out F11 Farmhand loader on her. A couple years ago I put an unabused F11 on an the old gal has been my snow removal outfit since.
Yesterday was beautiful and I ignored the weather guessers about what was coming. Left my baby clear out away from power. Well today it has been snowing blowing and pretty miserable. Had a drift across the drive and had to get her started. A whiff of either an she was running. Yep pretty proud!!
 
Nick; glad to see that the old girl is still carrying her weight.
Here is a pic of the Case 440 taken today that has the hyd, system that you sent me The cover, pump and valves have made this bare back tractor very useful to me with the auxilary hyds. that I plumbed to it. The hyds. made it a very use full tractor for me. Thank You!!
Loren
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She doesn?t have enough compression to crack a head. I am pretty sure it needs the heads reworked. Has a pop at an idle. When I first bought it, I used ether to start it even when it was 60 degrees out. Now with 2 good 12 volt batteries and the starter off of my 830, she will start down to 32 without ether.
I watched a guy with a NICE late model 930 start it one evening when it was about 20 out. He has brazed a pipe coupling right into the intake. Says he has been using ether that way since it was new.
 
It's not compression that cracks those heads, it is uncontrolled combustion the ether causes, and the fact that the heads are "punky". That is the best way I can describe it, as they are prone to cracking. If you need to start it when cold, take the big pipe plug out of the bottom of the intake manifold & hold a lighted propane torch so the flame warms the air inside of the manifold, doesn't take long.
 
(quoted from post at 10:40:12 11/26/18) It's not compression that cracks those heads, it is uncontrolled combustion the ether causes, and the fact that the heads are "punky". That is the best way I can describe it, as they are prone to cracking. If you need to start it when cold, take the big pipe plug out of the bottom of the intake manifold & hold a lighted propane torch so the flame warms the air inside of the manifold, doesn't take long.
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Thats how I start my DB990 which has a convenient pipe plug on the intake. I use an electric heat gun, the intake will snuff out a propane torch most of the time. I almost never have to use the block heater.
 

John, I've been trying to follow your advice on this as a precaution, but I did read an old post about adding a glow plug from a Case 1070 to an 800b...and if I recall, you confirmed this could be done using an existing "port" on the intake manifold.

My 800b did still have the original "pill ether" port and metal tube as supplied by Case, but the canister is gone.

What port on the intake manifold would be used for this 1070 glow plug? I guess I've never seen one so I'm unsure of the size and part number.

Rodd
 
Rodd: The heaters CASE used on the "Racine" models from the late 50's thru into the "70" Series are all the same heater. Allis even used it. Our 800 has the heater. However, some 800 manifolds will not allow the use of the heater. On the bottom of your manifold is a 1" pipe plug, and that is where the heater will go, if there is room inside as the heater is fairly tall. If you can find a heater, and your manifold isn't deep enough, I would think you could rig a collar of some kind.
 

Thanks John, I'm going to look into that as a permanent solution and try to abandon starting fluid altogether.

Rodd
 
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