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panningbros

07-29-2017 07:23:11




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Got our 1948 S Case and 1950 D Case going this morning. Just curious... Did Case ever fire the guy that thought putting the clutch handle on the left side on the D and the clutch handle on the right side on the S was a good idea??




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fixerupper

08-01-2017 06:28:57




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 Re: Case history lesson in reply to panningbros, 07-29-2017 07:23:11  
Yep, my Triumph had the rear brake and the shifter on the opposite side of where the brake/shifter were on the Honda.



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JGarner

08-03-2017 07:57:53




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 Re: Case history lesson in reply to fixerupper, 08-01-2017 06:28:57  
Even though Japan used right hand drive like England I think Honda built for the American market. Triumph (also BSA, Norton, Enfield and all other British bikes) is just like their cars, everything is on the wrong for us in the US!!!

Jim



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JGarner

08-03-2017 07:57:32




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 Re: Case history lesson in reply to fixerupper, 08-01-2017 06:28:57  
Even though Japan used right hand drive like England I think Honda built for the American market. Triumph (also BSA, Norton, Enfield and all other British bikes) is just like their cars, everything is on the wrong for us in the US!!!

Jim



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kevinthefixer

07-30-2017 12:53:16




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 Re: Case history lesson in reply to panningbros, 07-29-2017 07:23:11  
I always had the same problem with antique motorcycles, many of them had the foot brake and foot shifter reversed. From '75 on, all sold in the US had left shift, right brake. I still own a '75 Norton. Not sure if I could pull the clutch handle anymore, though, arthritis you know.



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RGMartin

07-30-2017 06:49:24




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 Re: Case history lesson in reply to panningbros, 07-29-2017 07:23:11  
And they still didn't figure it out by the 70 series.

The shift patterns were different on the 8 speeds/ little powershifts/big powershifts.



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graham of New Zealand

07-30-2017 00:55:34




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 Re: Case history lesson in reply to panningbros, 07-29-2017 07:23:11  
Tha 1940s Cat D4 Crawlers had RH hand clutch, pulled back to engage. And the E27N Fordson Tractors had foot clutch on right side and brakes on the left. One does quickly get used to differences.



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greenenvy

07-29-2017 16:19:08




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 Re: Case history lesson in reply to panningbros, 07-29-2017 07:23:11  
I'm used to driving JD 2 cylinders and the tractor that threw me off was my Massey 55 Western Special. It has a hand clutch on the left side that pulls back to engage. Completely 100% opposite of the Deere. I think it must have been an after thought because the handle is almost behind you. My Case 500 is more convenient for me since it's similar to a Deere.



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Eagle Beagle

07-29-2017 10:36:11




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 Re: Case history lesson in reply to panningbros, 07-29-2017 07:23:11  
And what is worse, the clutch handle on a CC is opposite to both the SC and DC. Pull back to engage, forward to release.

Beagle



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oldproudvet

07-29-2017 07:43:47




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 Re: Case history lesson in reply to panningbros, 07-29-2017 07:23:11  
I've both an early (non live power) SC and a late SC. I took the oil pan out on the later one this past summer. I'd been working the early one hauling trailer loads of wood out of the woods, and swapped to the other one for bushhogging. Of course, being where I shouldn't have been, wacking willows, I managed to drive right onto a nice 4 ft sloping rock, I grabbed the clutch lever and found only air, split second later I was balancing on the oil pan, supporting the tractor was the rock, and then I grabbed the other side, where I found the lever, just as the oil pressure was hitting zero..... .... Really love those opposite side clutch levers and the fact I don't train easily

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olgentdc

07-31-2017 07:01:08




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 Re: Case history lesson in reply to oldproudvet, 07-29-2017 07:43:47  
in these modern days ,, such enginneering confusion , could be grounds for a Class Action suit,.



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Roger46

07-30-2017 10:43:00




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 Re: Case history lesson in reply to oldproudvet, 07-29-2017 07:43:47  
I have driven Farmalls most of my life. Recently I got a B John Deere and most recently an SC Case. At least both those have the hand clutch that operates the same. When I drive in the shed, I always have one foot on each brake and my hand on the clutch. I don't know what I would do in a panic mode. I always wondered how you operated those tractors with the hand brakes and hand clutches as you needed more than two arms.

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