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orangepower

10-20-2013 15:45:27




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Might go look at a 830 diesel Dual Range. Earlier model (not Comfort King). What should i look for / check? Never owned one. I asked the man on the phone if it was hard to start in cold weather. He said they always used ether. They have owned it since the 60s. I doubt engine's been overhauled. This kinda scares me. Would i be looking at potential engine problems if too much ether's been used over the years? Thanks.

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cshess

10-20-2013 16:54:04




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 Re: 830 questions in reply to orangepower, 10-20-2013 15:45:27  
i DONT WANT TO argue with John but i strongly disagree with him on ether use.I have a 64 301 cu in 830 with thousands of hrs on it. It origionally started very well with out anything.However many yearg ago we used wrong oil an intake valves got deposits on them an caused it to miss. Heads were removed an valves cleaned . It than would be harder to start.An in fact ether was used many many times to start it!Today it sits in shed retired from use an sled pulling. Today it will start easier than most of its life---probably due to me setting injection timing different.There were never any cracked heads on this engine!!!We have used eather on our 930-1070-354 perkins-372 perkins an ocasionally on other countary engines. As wor tractor you are looking act ask to see in radiator for bubbles--look at heads an notice if they were replaced. I will agree with John an others that ether is very explosive stuff an operator using it is secret to wether you hurt engines.My way is to give engine a whiff of it in air cleaner--with starter turning engine if no results maybe a little more next time But give it time to difuse in air stream so no cylinder gets a big dose of ether. I will NOT use ether injectors mounted on tractors as i feel it is much to easy to overload with ether.Also using directions on can that say give a couple seconds of ether is completely wrong.

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Case Nutty 1660

10-20-2013 16:50:40




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 Re: 830 questions in reply to orangepower, 10-20-2013 15:45:27  
hate to go against John but I have used either on CASE dsls for 45 plus years and have NEVER done any damage to one, cracked heads are from shutting them down HOT/not allowing cool down after working now I do agree do not use to much of the stuff, but really in all truth John out here in this altitude you can not start one when its cold without it period new or used I have many thousands of hours of run time on "30"/"70" series tractors, I prefer to have them plugged in and not have to use it but here below 0 degrees they do not start sitting outside with out it

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John Saeli

10-20-2013 16:16:15




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 Re: 830 questions in reply to orangepower, 10-20-2013 15:45:27  
The fact that it needed ether is an indication she has problems to begin with. I bought a 1030 that had been ether'd & discovered 2 damaged heads, 1 cracked sleeve & a crack in the block. We're gonna weld the block, install a new overhaul kit & re-built heads. A CASE diesel will not tolorate ether. Expect the worse.



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j hikemper

10-20-2013 19:26:26




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 Re: 830 questions in reply to John Saeli, 10-20-2013 16:16:15  
don t doubt that john,,, there still are some of us out here using ether sparingly , ,,the 430s , 930 and 1070 all have manifold preheaters ,,that will start them down to 20,, but to be honest , all of them got a whif at one time or another ..but NEVER WITH MANIFOLD HEAT ,gets any colder than ten then I look to the DC and 730 gasser ...and pull the diesels



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