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Tie mech on 1960 140 W Case Bailer

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07-01-2013 15:23:34

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I was advised to come over here with my problem.
The tie mech on my bailer was worked on b y mechanics. Im supposing a spring finally broke, and that let the clutch dog b e at the wrong place at the wrong time, and it broke. I had another junk 140 and took them both to the mechanic. He fixed THAT problem, BUT, as I was turning it to time it, I noticed the needles wouldn't move. I took the side plate to the tie mech gear box off and cleaned out the grease and oil. I found there are 3 set screws/bolts on the bevel gear on the main shaft. The gear turns but the shaft dosent. I found these set screws/bolts are spaced the same apart.
What im needing to know is IF the shaft has indentations to accept the set screws/bolts or how do I make sure the shaft is in the right place. if ive just got to retighten them? Thanks ALOT for any help.

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07-01-2013 21:19:01

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 Re: Tie mech on 1960 140 W Case Bailer in reply to Farmallb, 07-01-2013 15:23:34  
I have a parts donor sitting in a shed The cover was already off and unfortunately the set screws are already out for some reason. I could turn the sprocket on the gearbox and the plate with timing boss on it would turn. I could only see a bit of the shaft thru the set screw hole but saw no marks or indentations. Tom

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07-02-2013 06:12:07

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 Re: Tie mech on 1960 140 W Case Bailer in reply to 4435, 07-01-2013 21:19:01  
Thanks. I don't see tho, how you could see anything through the bevel gear, as to whether it had indents or not. Im going to take one of the sets out, and put a wire in the hole and try to turn the shaft. That way ill be able to tell if it has the indents or not. If it does, Im a lot better off. IF not, im not, THO I think that the Pitman arm has to be in alignment with a bolt on the cam when its where the cam needs to be. Ill try setting the gear by that and see what happens.

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07-02-2013 08:37:42

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 Re: Tie mech on 1960 140 W Case Bailer in reply to Farmallb, 07-02-2013 06:12:07  
I just took the chain off from the tie mech to the flywheel. I put a hammermill belt on the flywheel and to my 48 H Farmall. I let it out on idle and walked back to look. Everything was turning. except the cam. I noticed I hadn't put the pin bolt in that holds the dog, so I did that. Then I flipped the dog by hand and it worked perfectly. THE SPRINGS EITHER SLIPPED OFF OR BROKE AGAIN. I cant get the cam off, and I couldn't the first time. Hate to take it off, it weights a lb or 100. Hate to haul it back to JD again.
Ill have to impress on them that the slipping off of that spring, or the breakage of it can cause the needles to crash, and as of 4yrs ago, there were only 16 in existence at $186 a pop.

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