Case 230 Bailer Needles

Anonymous-0 · Jun 16, 2013

Finally had a chance to do some square bailing today. Tried out a Case 230 baler that I got last summer. Worked like a champ for 18 bales then busted a needle! So two questions:

First, is there something other than timing that I need to look out for with these balers to keep from breaking needles?

Second, does anyone know were I can by needles for a 230 baler other than the dealer?

Thanks! Will post pics in a little bit.

Case Nutty 1660 · Jun 16, 2013

Yes it's out of time and or the drive chains are loose, do not try it any more until you time it like the book says cnt

RJKeith · Jun 16, 2013

Thanks CNT, I timed it when I first got it and it was working perfect, so I think I need to check the drive chain. Is this the chain that drives the knotter? I think there is an adjustment sprocket, so how much tension does it need? Thanks!

cshess · Jun 16, 2013

Also you can weld the needle with nickel rod.Remove good one an match curverature. Find profesional welder if you are not sure of welding procedure

Case Nutty 1660 · Jun 16, 2013

you have two drive chains the main and knotter drive, both need to be tight no excess slack, and you will want to check timing again after you tighten the chains

Case Nutty 1660 · Jun 16, 2013

forgot to add check the shear bolt in the knotter drive as well, have seen these half sheared

RJKeith · Jun 16, 2013

Will do, thanks! Now I have to go to the dealer and buy a new needle, ouch for the wallet!

casecollectorsc · Jun 16, 2013

If the needle brake isn't tight enough it will let the needles come into the chamber. Also if the dog on the needle arm is sticky it will leave the needles in the chamber. That dog has to be free to hold good.

Anonymous-0 · Jun 16, 2013

I may have a 230 needle. I will check and see and get back to you.

DKase · Jun 16, 2013

Do they have a plunger lock? Is it adjusted properly?

RJKeith · Jun 16, 2013

300 pulled it well.

Christopher Mikesell · Jun 16, 2013

We did three of these CASE cast needles last year at one of the welding shops where I work. My boss preheated each one and brazed them with the correct flux. He has a proven track record with cast bailer needles. Of course, you must be careful to keep things clamped down and in alignment. Also, the needles we did were not symmetrical left-to-right. One side was flat and the other was tapered

Adirondack case guy · Jun 17, 2013

Check the knotter brake to be sure it is holding the knotter arm out of the chamber. You also need to check the operation of the safty dog, which should engage the plunger and shear the flywheel pin if needles are in the chamber at the wrong time. Most and formost, I would check the hay dog, and springs. If they are broken the hay can push back against needles during the tieing cycle and break off, usually the cut side needle. We always brazed them back together, sometimes several times. Also I see you were on the back swath, so a stick could have wedged the needle also, plus more hay, which could have had green clumps in it.
Loren
Loren

Case 230 Bailer Needles

Anonymous-0

Well-known Member

Case Nutty 1660

Well-known Member

RJKeith

Member

cshess

Member

Case Nutty 1660

Well-known Member

Case Nutty 1660

Well-known Member

RJKeith

Member

casecollectorsc

Well-known Member

Anonymous-0

Well-known Member

DKase

Well-known Member

RJKeith

Member

Christopher Mikesell

Member

Adirondack case guy

Well-known Member

Similar threads