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03-16-2013 14:49:45

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Growing up on the farm , we had two 830 CK gas and neighbor had 930 and 1030 CK,s diesel so I am familiar with them and loved them. Question I have is about the 70/75 series that followed. These are wide open questions and I'm sure if I took the time to search all the archives I might get the answers. I am after any inherent weeknesses and why , the strong points and why and the best way to determine whether a particular model does in fact suffer from those weeknesses. Being it's still winter in lot of locations , I'm sure there are quite a few responders on here yet. My e-mail is open , also , so if you don't wish to publically respond that will work also. There used to be a Case dealer in town and sold a lot of tractors back in the '60,s and 70,s. A few of them are still around and some comming up for sale and a lot are original owners. I'm sure you get my drift by now. I'm into JD as far as the antiques but the 60,s/70,s 2wd,s it is Case , Oliver and JD not nessessarily in order.970-1070-1170 and "5,s" and definately the 1370 are of interest. Our 830,s were bullet proof and for only having abt 70 hp pulled 4/16,s as good as a 80hp 4010. Thanks in advance for any and all your opinions. I would like to think I can be a lot more informed buyer for it. Thank you. Randy.

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03-18-2013 20:23:30

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 Re: need some Case expertise in reply to B-maniac, 03-16-2013 14:49:45  
My dad said alot of them were abused by guys hitting the clutch while the power shifts were engaged

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03-18-2013 20:13:22

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 Re: need some Case expertise in reply to B-maniac, 03-16-2013 14:49:45  
Lot of tractors round here of every color had the trannies abused by guys that just had to turn up the injector pump and pull one more bottom or an extra 4 foot of disk. That isn't a design flaw of the tractor, that's a design flaw in the owner.

This is all hearsay. I have been told by a die hard Case fan and owner of a couple of 970's that the power shift could be damaged when using the tractor as stationary PTO power, now this was about 10 years ago but I remember something about not leaving the PS in R. Something about not oiling right. He also told me that the sleeve seals would go bad at about 5K hours but there was a fix for that and once the mod done he claimed they were a 10K engine.
They are a nice tractor to operate.


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Don Rudolph

03-16-2013 20:38:54

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 Re: need some Case expertise in reply to B-maniac, 03-16-2013 14:49:45  
OK, I"ll take a shot at this. Remember this advice is worth exactly what you paid for it. LOL I have thousands of hours behind an 8speed 1070 and 1175. They are pretty solid in every aspect, except maybe shifting. You must remember that they are getting up there in hours and things will tend to get sloppy in the linkage. At 35 years of age little things will go wrong from time to time, but for the most part these old beasts just won"t quit. I would say the same for the 970"s. As far as the powershift models are concerned, I will let others speak as I have no personal experience with them. One other thing, in my personal opinion the 70 series Case tractors are some of the sharpest looking tractors ever built. Good Luck finding that tractor! Don

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03-17-2013 06:47:34

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 Re: need some Case expertise in reply to Don Rudolph, 03-16-2013 20:38:54  
Yeah, what Don said! Also, if you liked your 30 series tractors you'll love the 70 series. Ease of steering and good brakes makes them nice operating tractors.

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03-17-2013 13:20:11

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 Re: need some Case expertise in reply to casecollectorsc, 03-17-2013 06:47:34  
Thanks to both of you who responded , for your views.Ours were straight 8 speeds and that is what I would rather stick with. I understand why none of the others posted as sometimes it just causes a pi$$in match of varied oppinions and hard feelings. Any more info I need , I will get another way. Again , thanks to the two of you. RB

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03-17-2013 14:21:00

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 Re: need some Case expertise in reply to B-maniac, 03-17-2013 13:20:11  
Sorry you feel the way you do. Your question was very vague. The 1170 and 1175 were distinctly different tractors in the Case 70 series lineup. as were the 12-1570's. The only 75 series Case tractor built was the 1175, which was a lighter built 1170. (mainly the monsterous front axle on the 1170 was replaced with a standard 70 series axle. the 1170 also had external disc brakes which were unique to it and the 1090 tractor, unique to it'self. Both 11's had outboard planitarys to handle the extra HP and torque from a 451 Turbo engine. All the 7-1070 series had standard bullgear rears powered by either the 8spd or the 12spd RPS34 trans. Both 11's were 8spd with mechanical clutch. The 12-1570 were a totally different tractor. The tranny was rotated 90 degrees so what used to be the top then became the RH side of the trans and diff. With the abundent horsepower fron the turbocharged 451 and 504 engines, these tractors were designed with inboard planitaries and brakes and offered a 1000rpm pto only.
My point here is that you asked a question which encompased a broad variety of Case tractor designs and each design had it's good and bad points. When you get a specific model in mind,post back and we can answer your question in detail.

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03-18-2013 18:55:08

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 Re: need some Case expertise in reply to Adirondack case guy, 03-17-2013 14:21:00  
Thanks,ACG , that is exactly what kind of info I wanted. I know my Q was vague as I stated in my original post it was a "wide open question". I don't feel any animosity toward anyone as no-one is obligated to answer posts on here and there are plenty of reasons for not doing so. I will try to be more specific from now on. Right now I don't know exactly which model/s will be up for sale and when. I just wanted to arm myself with the most info I could ahead of time. I appreciate your info , it is exactly the kind of info I wanted. One more specific question , though, I have heard the statement that the 1270/1370/1570,s outpowered their drive train to the point that most will be pretty much shot after this amount of yrs. Any credence to that statement in your opinion? Again,thanks, and I more than likely will be back with more Q,s eventually. RB

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Adirondack case guy

03-19-2013 14:01:29

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 Re: need some Case expertise in reply to B-maniac, 03-18-2013 18:55:08  
Yes there is creditability to the rumor. The problem was many farmers of the time were old school. They would weight the he!! out of the tractors and hook bigger imps to them. Case was trying to reeducate farmers and teach them about lighter tractors which compacted less and pulled smaller implements faster, thus covering more acers/hr. burning less fuel, and increasing the longevity of the tractor. Case called this theory "The Rapid Farming System" They had handy pocket slide sticks that you could dial in actual ground speed, impliment width and calculate acers/hr-day, or specific time period. That was the reason Case designed the intelegence center dash module linked to a ground radar unit. It monitored max performance and like the slipstick you could key in imp width and it would display % of wheel slip, thus field efficiency. Loren

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03-19-2013 17:01:13

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 Re: need some Case expertise in reply to Adirondack case guy, 03-19-2013 14:01:29  
Know exactly what ya mean. Back in '62 our neighbor bought a brand new JD 4010 and this is what he loaded it down with , a fully mounted 5 btm plow , 2 clod busters and an anhydrous tank behind that. Far as I know it didn't have a turbo and even though it only had 81 hp to tear it up , I doubt that tractor lasted more than 10 yrs. Again , thanks for your info. RB

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