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What a lemon!

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farmboyWI

12-26-2011 22:00:46




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I posted about our JX 80 this spring when it first gave trouble, now I’ve just gotta vent about this thing. Mid January 2011- went to dealer to look at a 2008 JX80 4x4 w/50 hrs. Took delivery a couple weeks later, sat in shed till mid April. Was used for some driving practice, then planted oats for a total of about 15 clock hrs. when it developed a knocking sound. It had an extended warranty when we bought it, so it went to the dealer for service. Problem- timing gears pounded to heck, teeth knocked off. When they put a puller to it, they even stretched them. Batch of soft gears. Parts had to come directly from Turkey where it was built, so 2 months later, we get the thing back with non-working lights (pulled fuse) and a non-working hydraulic pump which they came out and replaced. 3 weeks and it knocks again, only these gears weren’t soft, just pounded to heck. 1 month later we get it back, and 1 week later they get it back again, same thing. We get it back in September, blow some silage, and after having it 2 weeks, it leaves us again for more gears. We just got it back a week ago Friday, and they were confident it was fixed –it had left the factory missing the lower half of the front main bearing. By Thursday, they got a call to come and see why the oil light was staying on when running. They came and checked it, said pressure was good, sender was bad. They called Saturday to say sender was in and we could pick it up, or they’d put it in the local drop box (!!!!). Then this morning it hauled a load to the field. Didn’t make it to the corner when it lost power, and started squealing. Shut it down fast. Had a hot smell to it. We’re thinking it seized up? It now has a total of 147 clock hrs. Where’s CNH with a can of kerosene? There sure isn't a substitute for a real Case. And please, someone tell me they’ve had one worse in any color!

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Mark-Ia

12-28-2011 06:09:45




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 Re: What a lemon! in reply to farmboyWI, 12-26-2011 22:00:46  
Just Tell them you don't want it back. You know it's junk...



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oldtanker

12-27-2011 20:36:52




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 Re: What a lemon! in reply to farmboyWI, 12-26-2011 22:00:46  
Farmboy, a friend got a new CaseIH round baler about 5 years ago. He had nothing but problems the first cutting so the dealer pick it up and a few days later called and told him what the problem was. Something to do with stuff being more than an inch off for welding specs. Dealer took it back and brought him out another new one the next day. He hasn't had any problems with it.

That means I guess I'd be standing on the dealers desk yelling till he made it right.....but then I don't have good people skills.

Rick
This post was edited by oldtanker at 10:23:33 12/28/11.

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oldtanker

12-27-2011 20:28:35




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 Re: What a lemon! in reply to farmboyWI, 12-26-2011 22:00:46  
What can I say, FIAT is finally wearing it down just like they have with most others companies they have acquired. It's to the point that I would consider going with MF/AGCO if buying new or JD.

Rick



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mark in boonville ny

12-27-2011 14:57:36




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 Re: What a lemon! in reply to farmboyWI, 12-26-2011 22:00:46  
even though red is made by blue the red isnt as well built as the blue. the blue is better built and better put together. i really see no piont in make 2 tractors with one company. it was better when they were all seperate.



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drumlin WI

12-27-2011 13:38:41




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 Re: What a lemon! in reply to farmboyWI, 12-26-2011 22:00:46  
What Again!!!!

What should be done is rip out the Iveco engine and the electronics. Replace them with an old Case 188 or David Brown 219. At least it will run for more than 10 hours before needing to be fixed.

P.S. It looks like it might need a new engine after all.



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brokengun

12-27-2011 12:59:08




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 Re: What a lemon! in reply to farmboyWI, 12-26-2011 22:00:46  
I’m not familiar with a JX80

How many HP is a JX80

Regardless I would check into your states lemon law.

You might even contact your states attorney general office and see what they say.

It maybe worth the phone call.

I’m afraid that thing has got to go!

I’ve heard stories of farmers buying tractors and the things nickel and dime them out of business.



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farmboyWI

12-27-2011 20:15:48




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 Re: What a lemon! in reply to brokengun, 12-27-2011 12:59:08  
JX 80 is supposed to be about 65 pto hp, but I think they forgot to hang some balls on it when it left the factory. First time I put a load on it was pulling a load of oats up our big hill. Either one of our 1390’s would take it up in 4&3. Before the hill I opened the throttle all the way for the first time, it passed red-line (2300? I think) and when it passed 2600, I decided to back it off. When I hit the hill- no bark, no bite, it just started slowing down. Just the way these new engines are I think. Wish the dealer would keep it and send us an 870.

Oh, an update to the story- we tried starting it this morning before we called the dealer. It ran up to full rpm, sounded alright, but wouldn’t hold a steady rpm. Sounded like there was a slight load being placed on it on and off. Then it started knocking again, more violently, it said bang, started knocking worse, and started shaking the daylites out of itself before we shut it down. All we’ve had to pay so far was trucking on its’ first trip, but I hope Case will resolve this soon.

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D-C-741

12-27-2011 13:41:14




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 Re: What a lemon! in reply to brokengun, 12-27-2011 12:59:08  
The J stands for Ford or CNH they are just Painted witch one of the Companys are going to put there Hood on it .A Guy down the roar from here has one /its a JX70 /Junk Wears out the Front drive tires in about 6 months. & its Powerless/ as I under stand it they are shipped here from oversea's and painted some place down south.I week Blue the next Week Red.



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mark in boonville ny

12-27-2011 11:55:35




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 Re: What a lemon! in reply to farmboyWI, 12-26-2011 22:00:46  
i dont care how bad cnh got i like the blue but i would qiute farming beofre i go to green. i have very little green equipment but everytime i need something they have to order it. the no longer make it or or it is out of stock. its always the same story and they have very little buisness like they used too.



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Lamont

12-27-2011 11:54:08




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 Re: What a lemon! in reply to farmboyWI, 12-26-2011 22:00:46  
Have 2 friends and a cousin with similar stories. 1 friend and cousin already went Green and the other friend probably will next time. I hate it, but Deere is kicking CNH's tail with quality, (although it's not as good as it used to be either), and service. Service seems to be the biggest point around here.



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bobbyboy

12-27-2011 06:26:23




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 Re: What a lemon! in reply to farmboyWI, 12-26-2011 22:00:46  
you have alot patience



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gfs

12-28-2011 13:17:15




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 Re: What a lemon! in reply to bobbyboy, 12-27-2011 06:26:23  
take it to the dealer and roll it off in front of the door to the lobby or parts counter then go out on the lot and pick its replacement who needs the headaches that have already been bestowed upone you. Remember "fiat" FIX IT AGAIN TONY



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