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Hy-Tran Oil Subsitute?

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08-01-2011 08:10:58

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I need to drain the hyd and trans oil in my 1961 Case 830 with the case-o-matic. Local Case IH dealer wants $15.00 a gallon for hy-tran. Are the universal substitutes from TSC or somewhere like that good enough to put in a tractor that won't probably get 50 or 75 hours a year? Or should I spend the extra and get the hy-tran? Thanks - Bob

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08-02-2011 11:13:49

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 Re: Hy-Tran Oil Subsitute? in reply to Bobl1958, 08-01-2011 08:10:58  
Bob I have been down this path recently and it was a very expensive lesson.

I bought what I thought was a very cherry 1370 case. The first thing that I did was change all fluids.

The oil I used is a name brand oil that is listed for the case application. Within 60 hours I started losing the fiber disks in the power-shift less than 20 hours later the brakes disks went.

In the end I had to replace every fiber disk in the tractor.

Yes the new oil meets the specs for the Case but it dissolved the glue in the fiber disks.

Because your tractor is an old 830 Case-o-matic that has had Hytran in it before I would suggest that you DO NOT CHANGE TO ANOTHER BRAND.

If this was straight 30 series I would say probably yes but not a Case-O-Matic that has had Hytran in it before.

My fear is the new oil although it has the same rating will have a detergent in it that will eat-up your Case-o-matic clutch plates and maybe your seals.

It cost me $5000 to fix all of my problems, yes I found a couple of other issues that were unrelated but it was a very costly lesson and I done all the work

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Agri King

08-01-2011 18:12:25

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 Re: Hy-Tran Oil Subsitute? in reply to Bobl1958, 08-01-2011 08:10:58  
Use Hy-Tran. That cheap oil should say ...better than nothing....... on the pail because that is all it is. No joke, spend the money on Hy-Tran.

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Case Nutty 1660

08-02-2011 15:37:27

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 Re: Hy-Tran Oil Subsitute? in reply to Agri King, 08-01-2011 18:12:25  
Brokengun and Agriking,, seems like we do this every month or so huh?? I agree completely even though the oil may spec out isn't your tractorsworth a few extra dollars to be sure cnt

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08-02-2011 18:30:04

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 Re: Hy-Tran Oil Subsitute? in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 08-02-2011 15:37:27  
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CN1660,,I was going to stay out of this but I really don't have to now. Brokengun has said it so much better than I could have worded it. Hytran Ultra is a known commoditiy. To bad he had to learn the way he did. mEl

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d beatty

08-01-2011 16:21:57

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 Re: Hy-Tran Oil Subsitute? in reply to Bobl1958, 08-01-2011 08:10:58  
I use TSC universal HyTrans in Farmall B loader & in trans.-rear end of 450. Case IH dealer told me to make sure it was the same IH HyTrans. TSC hytrans (by 5 gallon bucket) runs about $8.40 a gallon.

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Scott Bettenhausen

08-01-2011 15:43:03

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 Re: Hy-Tran Oil Subsitute? in reply to Bobl1958, 08-01-2011 08:10:58  
I use Farm and Fleet hyd oil in everything now. Deere and the old Cases. The Deeres see the brunt of the work, and Ive never had any issues with it. Works just as well in the 770 and the 900's

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08-01-2011 15:31:16

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 Re: Hy-Tran Oil Subsitute? in reply to Bobl1958, 08-01-2011 08:10:58  
any good quality trans-draulic universal that is a 303 JD replacement will be fine though Hy-tran does have superior moisture carrying capability

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08-01-2011 09:21:15

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 Re: Hy-Tran Oil Subsitute? in reply to Bobl1958, 08-01-2011 08:10:58  
Case --JD etc don't make the oil. As long as the spec is for your make, its all the same. The only difference is the name on bucket. Who wants to pay extra for that. Kobota dealer told me if I didn't use their oil in my RTV it would not last. I don't use their oil and never had any trouble. Got 1000 hrs on it.

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Mike in Mn.

08-01-2011 08:36:03

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 Re: Hy-Tran Oil Subsitute? in reply to Bobl1958, 08-01-2011 08:10:58  
I always used Case TCH in mine, now I use NAPA universal, make sure the label says it will replace Case fluid, I haven't noticed any change in performance.

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