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front hubs on 1030

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grandpajohn

07-30-2011 15:17:08




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I took the front wheels off my 1030 to repack the wheel bearings. When trying to put it together I bought new seals(A27139) for it and it seems the seal is to big to seal around the spindel. My tractor ssn is 8325335 so this should be the correct seal but I am missing something. I cannot find a cast number on the hub but did find what looks like a 52 or 53 stamped on it.

Will the hubs from a 1070 fit and will the seals for it work on a 1030. I know the bearings are the same but not sure if they will work or not.

I would appreciate any input anyone has.

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gramps

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1031D

08-01-2011 08:05:44




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 Re: front hubs on 1030 in reply to grandpajohn, 07-30-2011 15:17:08  
Gramps, the factory wheels had 6 or 12 holes, 6 for one side and 6 for the other. Mine is stamped A57897 and the book says that had an 1 1/8" offset. When I broke a rim I stole a set of 7.5L-15's from a salvage IH tractor and this is how they sat. I can get you a picture of how the stock wheels sit, I am pretty sure I can put my hand flat between the spindle and tire. My replacement rim came from a tire store on one side and a 1070 on the other, may have to get a straight on picture for you of those.

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grandpajohn

08-01-2011 11:49:43




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 Re: front hubs on 1030 in reply to 1031D, 08-01-2011 08:05:44  
Thanks for the pic brian I would like to see a pic with the original spacing that would help a lot.

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gramps



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Paul A Young

07-31-2011 18:12:34




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 Re: front hubs on 1030 in reply to grandpajohn, 07-30-2011 15:17:08  
I am not an expert but I think you can switch hubs.Not for sure.There are different size rims available in parts book,but on early ones with old style hub the hub does not stick out as far.The only tire size is 7.50-16 or 9.00-16 unless you want to run your rim turned backwards(dished out). I bought a set of rims from my local tire dealer with a negative 1/2" dish to put 10.00-16's on mine.With the newer 1030 or 70 series hub you can use a common positive 2.5" dish.Hope that helps,Paul

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1031D

07-31-2011 08:02:15




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 Re: front hubs on 1030 in reply to grandpajohn, 07-30-2011 15:17:08  
John, the only problem I can see is the 1070 hubs are the same as the late 1030, and they use a 2 piece grease seal and I can't find an early model spindle to compare the diameters of that ring that the smaller seal half goes on. The wheel bearings are the same cones so they will fit that way. I have a pair of early model hubs in the shop looking for a home, 6 bolt. As for the rims, what do you mean by wagon wheels? Originally they had 6 different sizes available, from 7.50-16, 7.60-15, 9.5L-15, 11L-15 for 6 bolt hubs, and 10/11-16 for 8 bolt hubs. I broke a front rim a year ago and just went to a tire dealer and bought an off the shelf 8x15 rim for a wagon and it fits fine and looks like the other one.

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grandpajohn

07-31-2011 18:46:35




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 Re: front hubs on 1030 in reply to 1031D, 07-31-2011 08:02:15  
When I said wagon, I meant implement, they are drilled for 12 holes instead of only 6. When I put them on there is about 1/2 inch clearance between the tire and the spindle tube. If I reverse them its about 1.5 inchs clearance. How much clearance was there between the factory rims and the spindle tube?

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gramps



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grandpajohn

07-30-2011 21:54:42




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 Re: front hubs on 1030 in reply to grandpajohn, 07-30-2011 15:17:08  
Thanks for all the help, I did find the issue with the seal the retainer had been modified by the previous owner and it will not hold the original seal so I will have to buy a new one for each side.

I would still like to know if the hubs from a 1070 will fit and also will the wheels from a 1070 fit and look correct. The previous owner put wagon wheels on it and the dish is not perfect and the wheels look funny.

thanks again for the help
gramps

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mark in boonville ny

07-30-2011 15:43:00




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 Re: front hubs on 1030 in reply to grandpajohn, 07-30-2011 15:17:08  
i think what somebody said before i got a 70 series front hub sitting in the cab of a tractor. can show a pic if you like.



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grandpajohn

07-30-2011 15:38:30




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 Re: front hubs on 1030 in reply to grandpajohn, 07-30-2011 15:17:08  
Yes, I see the machined part of the spindle where the seal runs but this seal is too large and the rubber does not seal against the machined area. I pulled the old seal out it is a national 482435s60.



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longcases

07-30-2011 15:21:26




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 Re: front hubs on 1030 in reply to grandpajohn, 07-30-2011 15:17:08  
That seal is not designed to seal around the shaft it seals against the spindle arm if you look there is a machined surface where it seals against.



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