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802 b a bluberin idiot

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paul case

10-27-2009 20:06:22




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i finally got the old goat started today 10-27 . we did pull it and when it started it didnt sound bad,but it has so much blow by that the motor is now covered in oil from the valve cover breathers down.everything on the old tractor seems to work but it seems like i may have to get into the engine any suggestions on why this tractor now has so much blow by and the previous owner didnt have this problem?

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paul case

10-28-2009 19:17:28




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 Re: 802 b a bluberin idiot in reply to paul case, 10-27-2009 20:06:22  
tractor sit 5 months i didnt see it run b 4 that but im sure it ran better than this.im really not that interested in throwin money and a lot of extra time at it,but if i cant turn it into someonelses project . i didnt get took on the tractor. rooster offered me more than i gave for it. if it ran sound id just add it to the collection.2-h's,m w-6,560,1086,530,580,930,8-n,and a wd are already in the barn. seems like the parts for this 800 could get expensive $170 for a gasket kit ???

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John Saeli

10-28-2009 07:32:00




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 Re: 802 b a bluberin idiot in reply to paul case, 10-27-2009 20:06:22  
Please tell us how you pull started an "800".



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J Heitkemper

10-28-2009 08:47:24




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 Re: 802 b a bluberin idiot in reply to John Saeli, 10-28-2009 07:32:00  
Hi John ,, When i was 12 . We hill started Dads . My sister had dropped me and brother off at the field , and Roared off to other demands ...it was a cool morning , 800 fortunately was on top of the hill,,, from the 1st 10seconds of cranking , WE could tell the battery would weakensoon . AND NO ETHER . So released the Brakes , opened valves with Decompressor , Placed in 6th gear , set throttle at full , engaged direct drive , While rolling engaged starter , When i felt tranny drag pickup and momentum was strong , dumped the decompressor all the while cranking engine , And THE LADY WAS a RUNNIN ...... Shoo-weesh . that saved us a walk back to the farm..

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J Heitkemper

10-28-2009 08:44:49




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 Re: 802 b a bluberin idiot in reply to John Saeli, 10-28-2009 07:32:00  
Hi John ,, When i was 12 .. My sister had dropped me and brother off at the field , and Roared off to other demands ...it was a cool morning , 800 fortunately was on top of the hill,,, from the 1st 10seconds of cranking , WE could tell the battery would weakensoon .. So released the Brakes , opened valves with Decompressor , Placed in6th gear , set throttle at full , engaged direct drive , While rolling engaged starter , When i felt tranny drag pickup and momentum was strong , dumped the decompressor all the while cranking engine , And THE LADY WAS a RUNNIN ...... Shoo-weesh . that saved us a walk back to the farm..

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J Heitkemper

10-28-2009 08:44:48




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 Re: 802 b a bluberin idiot in reply to John Saeli, 10-28-2009 07:32:00  
Hi John ,, When i was 12 .. My sister had dropped me and brother off at the field , and Roared off to other demands ...it was a cool morning , 800 fortunately was on top of the hill,,, from the 1st 10seconds of cranking , WE could tell the battery would weakensoon .. So released the Brakes , opened valves with Decompressor , Placed in6th gear , set throttle at full , engaged direct drive , While rolling engaged starter , When i felt tranny drag pickup and momentum was strong , dumped the decompressor all the while cranking engine , And THE LADY WAS a RUNNIN ...... Shoo-weesh . that saved us a walk back to the farm..

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John Saeli

10-28-2009 11:27:44




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 Re: 802 b a bluberin idiot in reply to J Heitkemper, 10-28-2009 08:44:48  
yes, I've heard of that done, but I've never had occassion to do it. Problem is, when I've mentioned that, as an alternative, I get funny looks, so I was wonderin'.



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Camboted

10-27-2009 20:47:27




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 Re: 802 b a bluberin idiot in reply to paul case, 10-27-2009 20:06:22  
My first questuion is, how well did you know the previous owner? Did you see it run? You won't be the first person to have been "snookered". Been there, done that myself.

Secondly, how long has it been sitting?

To get that kind of blowby you have to be pressurizing the valve train which could be caused by a number of valve, head, or gasket issues. Was it running on all 4 cylinders? Sounds like "tear down" time. LOL!

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J Heitkemper

10-27-2009 20:34:59




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 Re: 802 b a bluberin idiot in reply to paul case, 10-27-2009 20:06:22  
someone rode it hard and put it Up Wet,, Didnt treat it Right .. This is the 267 Diesel Right , or is it a 251 gasser ,, either way , i can only tell you my experience ,,. OK,. Got a YAwNMar ray doing the same trick , that i will take all the way down and autopsy ,, Troble is put rings in it this summer and it never was RIGHT, i suspect perhaps wrong new RINGS , cracked Pistons , Or cracked Sleeve, Or cracked head.. Any of those Could be Your problem,, At any rate a STITCH in TIME will SAVE 9 , . Drag out the wrenches ,,,even though the motor appears blown ,, it is worthy to fix back right ...

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