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D-19

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steve

03-25-2003 17:13:29




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Looking at purchasing D-19, Any feedback on this model? Any problem areas to look out for, etc..




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DanD.

03-26-2003 10:40:09




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 Re: D-19 in reply to steve, 03-25-2003 17:13:29  
Any large gasoline tractor will burn a lot a gasoline. With a D19, you often hear the complaint about them burning a lot of gas, but the real problem is that the gas tank is rather small, only about 23 gallons I believe. I've hardly ever heard a complaint about high gasoline consumption in a 190 or 190 XT gas, both of which had a 48 gallon gas tank. The perception is that it burns a lot of gas just because you have to go to the gas pump often.

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Mike

03-26-2003 07:43:01




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 Re: D-19 in reply to steve, 03-25-2003 17:13:29  
I disagree with the fellows about being an absolute gas hog. It is a bigger engine and has the horsepower, for its size I think it is fairly good work tractor. I plow snow in the winter and feed round bales and run the baler in the summer and plow on 60 acres. It is an excellent work horse. I can bale 20 acres on about 15 gallons of fuel. I have never had a problem with my\une jumping out of gear.

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Eldon

03-26-2003 08:50:08




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 Re: Re: D-19 in reply to Mike, 03-26-2003 07:43:01  

I looked them up in the Nebraska tractor tests out of curiosity....the D19 gas put out 11.48 hp hours per gallon of fuel while the diesel was only 11.54 hp hours per gallon. With diesel prices running 20 cents more per gallon out my way the gas would actually be more economical to run!



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John

03-26-2003 03:47:04




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 Re: D-19 in reply to steve, 03-25-2003 17:13:29  
I've got a gas D19. Its a heckofa tractor, but it does like the gas. I used to burn 60-70 gallons a day pulling a 15 ft bushhog. Its been parked for the last 5 years or so because i can't afford to run it. I now have a 4020 deere that will run all day on a tank of fuel (34 gal) with no problem and still have 20 more horsepower than the 19. If you need a strong tractor for occasional use, the 19 will do ya good, bu be ready to open that wallet when you go to fill her up with gas. Later John

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kevin

03-25-2003 20:03:20




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 Re: D-19 in reply to steve, 03-25-2003 17:13:29  
Steve,

I almost bought a D19 before I ended up with a D17. A few things I learned: The D19 is a large, heavy tractor--more machine than the average small acreage homesite needs. Overhaul cost for the engine is very high. If you're looking at the diesel, the cylinder heads are known for cracking--this doesn't always mean the head needs to scrapped and often the engine will run OK even if the head has cracks. The turbocharger for the diesel is also quite the high priced item. I haven't gotten any quotes, but I would suspect it would run at least $750 or more for a rebuilt one, maybe even $1000. Now with all that said, the D19 is a workhorse that will take abuse and keep on running. Last comment, the gas engine really burns gas in large quantities. The 4 cyl. D17 gas is a better engine as far as fuel consumption. Others that actually own a D19 can provide more details, but the above comments were gathered from several months of talking to folks and reading the various posts related to the D19.

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Eldon

03-25-2003 20:48:46




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 Re: Re: D-19 in reply to kevin, 03-25-2003 20:03:20  

I've owned 2 turbo diesels....one was a dog that would barely pull itself, and the other was a real screamer....turbo whistle and black smoke when you gave it the fuel! It had a hi-strung cackle to it. Both were hard starting, though. Gas or diesel, both can have problems jumping out of gear so I would check that out for sure. The fix can get very expensive. Other than that they are a workhorse!

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steve

03-26-2003 06:29:51




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 Re: Re: Re: D-19 in reply to Eldon, 03-25-2003 20:48:46  
Thanks guys for all of the responses. It is a gas model.



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Wally G.

03-28-2003 14:58:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: D-19 in reply to steve, 03-26-2003 06:29:51  
Last I remember, the gas burned between 7 to 8 gallons an hour on the feed grinder, but it starts right up when it's 0 out. The diesel burned about 4 1/2 to 5 gallons an hour but the money you saved on fuel you spent on starting fluid. I would put either up against a 4020 on the pto shaft. Also, the turbo was about $350 to rebuild.



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ken

03-28-2003 19:18:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: D-19 in reply to Wally G., 03-28-2003 14:58:30  
I got a new turbo for $450 with the core



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