Allis Chamlers B - value?

ChampagneNBeer · Jun 21, 2021

Hi All,

Came across a clean-ish B at the local scrap yard - missing battery box, engine is frozen and think the linkage which runs to the front by the radiator is missing (sorry don't know what called).

Aside from those things, it is relatively clean and straight - aside from little things like fuel lines busted, fogged/broken dials etc.

Anywho, I wanted to make an offer on it, but didn't know how to price.

Any input?

Things to watch out for which make a si.ole restore go from easy to nightware and expense really quick?

Thanks!

old · Jun 21, 2021

I'd say $250 if the tire hold air and aren't flat out shot

shaun wallace · Jun 21, 2021

One of the scrap yards here get 2.00 pound or more for going out material. They docked seller on tires but you buy them.

ChampagneNBeer · Jun 21, 2021

$2 a pound? That is absurd.

shaun wallace · Jun 21, 2021

Been cleaning up around my place and getting 1.00 pound for unprepared scrap so you think they gonna sell for same price they gave for it.

steve(ill) · Jun 21, 2021

$1. a pound is $2000. a ton.......... NOBODY is paying anywhere near that....

If they are paying $100. a ton intake... they might sell for $200. ton out the door.

old · Jun 21, 2021

Your right and if they where paying that every thing that was chained down would be stolen and sold as scrap and even then if you didn't stand guard even the chain would be gone. Shoot when it was up around $300 a ton many things disappeared that was not owned by the person making it disappear

lfnel · Jun 22, 2021

If it's your plan to repair or restore it, you'd most likely be better off money-wise to find one that you can drive, one that runs, all the transmission gears & PTO work. Now, if you're just looking to save it from the cupola, a noble goal, then forge ahead.

Traditional Farmer · Jun 22, 2021

Where is this place,I got a few tandems loads to haul there?

ChampagneNBeer · Jun 22, 2021

Hi Shaun,

I am not sure what you mean by 1.00 pound or 2.00 pound back out the door - but if it means $1 a pound paying for scrap ($2 a pound to buy) then those prices are absurd.

Either way, what the local scrap yard paid is not really my concern - whether he got it for free or paid $4000 for it - I would only offer what the actual logical value of the tractor is worth, no more, no less .

I know some folks (and it happens around here at least) often make offers for stuff when they think they know what the current owner paid (example, well, I know you got it for $100 so I will give you $150) but personally, not my style and will leave that type of haggling to those people.

Anywho - regardless of scrap values - any input on what an AC model B in non-running condition with some issues and frozen motor would be valued around to purchase and save from scrap heap?

ChampagneNBeer · Jun 22, 2021

Hi lfnel,

Yeah, I agree - and would likely search out a running tractor if it was something I expected to fix up and use.

Regarding the Allis Chalmers, this would likely be something I would pick up to save from scrapping and it would give me a fun project to tinker with and if could restore, great - if not, it is a pretty piece of machinery I would be happy to have here as farm art .

Any input on what you would offer for such a tractor?

ss55 · Jun 22, 2021

Ask the scrap yard what they want for it it may surprise you or make you walk away. My guess is anywhere between $250 and $500 plus the value of the tires would be a fair price, but no bargain.

Paint it up and it might be nice yard art for a decade, until the tires look bad. Steel wheels and gray paint seem to hold up the best to weather.

lfnel · Jun 22, 2021

I'm not current on AC pricing so would hate to hazard a guess.

old · Jun 22, 2021

I would think if there was a place giving a $1 a pound for scrap no one would have any scrap laying around because they would sell it or it would be taken from them

russ1 · Jun 22, 2021

Old is right. Remember that parts are scarce.

steve(ill) · Jun 22, 2021

Normally a non running B, motor possibly locked, from an individual should be $200-300. You can get a runner for $600- 800. ..... I would guess the Scrap Yard might want more than an individual, but i would start around $300. ... like i said, you can get a runner for $600. if you look hard enough.

steve(ill) · Jun 22, 2021

Scrap price for steel / castings is pushing $200 a TON right now.. So the Yard probably gave $200. for that tractor... they might want $3-400 ... that does not mean it is worth that.

Jim.ME · Jun 22, 2021

A frozen engine, and who knows what else might be wrong, the motor may have seized while setting after it was parked for another mechanical failure. $200 to $400 max is a range. Time to ask them if they will sell it and for how much. Then you have to decide how much you want to spend for something that may turn into farm art? Just my thoughts.

ArleninOr · Jun 23, 2021

Just sold a clean non runner with good tires all complete for $450.00. Fellow wanted it for parts.

thdrduck · Jun 24, 2021

Bought a older restoration 47 B on new rubber with a near new Woods mower for $1500. So I would say that is your range, $100 for a pile of rust that used to be a B or a working B in great shape for $1500. Really a pretty narrow spread when you think about it when a cheap riding mower cost $1300. I once bought a old junk horse drawn cultivator for $200 because the wife wanted it for "yard art". So what the heck.

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