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02-05-2021 19:50:17

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Hello, I have a WD with an axle mount loader. My wheels are spun all the way out so they clear the axle mounted loader. I do not want to remove the loader when I am working the tractor. My question is for those who have back bladed both snow and gravel with the WD. I am considering a 7 or 8 foot rear 3 point mounted heavy duty blade that weighs in the 400 lb range. It would be hooked to a aftermarket 3 point and quick hitch. I would need such a large blade to cover the tire tracks. Is that just too much blade for the WD to be effective? I have a partially paved driveway so chains are out too. Would the tractor be effective, or would the snow or gravel load be too heavy for the tractor to move. I live in Minnesota so deep snow moving would be its main purpose. Thank you. Sincerely, Rifman

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02-12-2021 10:19:26

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 Re: WD back blade in reply to Rifman, 02-05-2021 19:50:17  
You could plumb into the tractor hyd. oil but you also can buy PTO pump units that have their own oil tank attached, keeps it simple.

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Ted in NE-OH

02-10-2021 15:26:48

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 Re: WD back blade in reply to Rifman, 02-05-2021 19:50:17  
No problem

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02-10-2021 14:24:02

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 Re: WD back blade in reply to Rifman, 02-05-2021 19:50:17  
I have used a 7 foot back blade on my 1951 WD Allis for 22 years. It has plowed a lot of snow without using chains. The key to this is decent back tires. I have one Rowe Foundry 400 pound wheel weight on each rear wheel. No fluid in tires. Originally had a King Kutter back blade and now running a Farm King 6084. It weighs 405 pounds and is a nice sturdy blade. Raising it so you are just touching the surface to be plowed gives me another 405 pounds of traction. Lowering the blade while you are in motion is a big help in plowing.

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02-09-2021 19:07:57

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 Re: WD back blade in reply to Rifman, 02-05-2021 19:50:17  
I put a 7' rear blade on my WD one winter, good tires, no chains. It was nearly useless for moving snow, particularly wet snow... I could be glad to back to the shop to park the tractor at best.

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02-06-2021 19:08:39

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 Re: WD back blade in reply to Rifman, 02-05-2021 19:50:17  
With out tire chains your tractor will not move much snow with a rear blade, get a pair of highway tire chains for you tractor. Even with a good pair of field style tire chains on my d17 a 8 ft blade will stop it pulling or pushing heavy snow.

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02-08-2021 10:09:56

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 Re: WD back blade in reply to ramblineagle, 02-06-2021 19:08:39  
If your rear tires are Not badly worn down AND they are Loaded with Calcium and/or weights, your Allis will have all it can handle (well) with a 6’ blade.. My WD 45 is Loaded in all 4 ( for pulling a 4-14” plow) and will Wade through most anything with my 7’ blade on the aftermarket 3-point..as long as ice is not too bad.. If interested, I could send a couple pics of my up-dated after-market 3- point that needs NO sway chains and has adjustable “Stops” on the lowering side..

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Aaron SEIA

02-06-2021 04:01:16

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 Re: WD back blade in reply to Rifman, 02-05-2021 19:50:17  
I've got a blade and loader on my D17. Blade does almost none of the work. 7 or 8' would be fine behind a WD. Traction might be an issue in deep snow, but you won't break anything.


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02-05-2021 19:57:22

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 Re: WD back blade in reply to Rifman, 02-05-2021 19:50:17  
I'd find/make a V plow that would mount to the loader. Years ago I built a V-plow that is 8.5 foot wide and mounts to the loader bucket of my Ford 841S. I have a back blade on the Ford for weight so pushing the snow is no problem

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02-11-2021 13:42:52

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 Re: WD back blade in reply to old, 02-05-2021 19:57:22  
I have a D 14 with a trip bucket rigged up to the Hydraulic outlet on the back of the tractor, I want to install a PTO driven hydraulic pump to operate the loader and change it to a cylinder operated bucket, does anyone know if I can route the hydraulic hoses from the PTO pump to the hydraulic tank on the tractor or will I need a separate tank/to run everything?

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