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D-17 series III disc brakes

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01-09-2021 12:07:10

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I replaced the brakes on this tractor last summer and I am having problems with the left brake locking up. When I did the brake job I reset the disc brake drum clearance to the factory setting of 2.034-2.044. I removed several shims as the distance was to small. Does anyone know what the dimension of the disc drum is with new pads ? I believe I need to add shims back ins.o the drum does not expand to much.

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01-10-2021 06:29:15

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 Re: D-17 series III disc brakes in reply to luckey, 01-09-2021 12:07:10  
After nearly 50 years of doing these band/disc brakes I've never seen an issue with anti-sieze or even a high temp grease. To sprinkle some graphite powder on the balls/ramps might be OK, but I don't see how it would ever last like the other two would. Remember, I've done some tractors 2 or 3 times over that time span to see the results of what I've done.

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01-10-2021 05:04:58

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 Re: D-17 series III disc brakes in reply to luckey, 01-09-2021 12:07:10  
Be sure to use anti-seize on the ball pockets and lightly on the hub splines. Nothing can be dry, but you also don't want the lining to get soaked with lube.

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01-10-2021 05:08:47

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 Re: D-17 series III disc brakes in reply to DrAllis, 01-10-2021 05:04:58  
you must have read my mind about the anti-seize.Thanks

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01-10-2021 05:34:48

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 Re: D-17 series III disc brakes in reply to luckey, 01-10-2021 05:08:47  
I'm remembering a little tube with which a little dry graphite could be sprinkled on the balls/sockets.

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01-10-2021 04:28:51

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 Re: D-17 series III disc brakes in reply to luckey, 01-09-2021 12:07:10  
Chances are 99% of the time ( f you've not changed any hard parts) you leave the shims the SAME !!! They've ran that way for 20 or 30 years. When assembled reach down inside from the top and gently shove in a feeler gauge. They cannot be tighter than .025" clearance and not more than .040".

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01-10-2021 04:50:25

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 Re: D-17 series III disc brakes in reply to DrAllis, 01-10-2021 04:28:51  
Thanks, The assembled dimension is what I really needed. I am currently measuring .042 on the assembled disc drum. I did replace the inner hub. I also took out several shims to obtain original dimensions on both sides per local dealer. I will be adding some of those back in and then do the right side also.

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