262 BUDA ENGINE rebuild

joe brabank · Apr 28, 2020

looks like a rebuild, but is this buda engine worth the cost? is it an unreliable engine no one wants? are all the parts available? D17 s/n2497D engine s/n 100665 all engine kits found for s/n 111??? and up! any tips would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

DrAllis · Apr 29, 2020

The worst (in reliability) engine AC ever built was the D-262 turbo engine in the D-19 farm tractor. The D-262 in an old D-17 would probably be next worst. They are known for cracking cylinder heads and blowing head gaskets. The head gaskets blow because the wet sleeves have sunk below flush of the top of the block. This requires a different block or expensive machining of the old block with new sleeves that have a thicker top flange lip. When new, they ran and performed great. But, when they need to be overhauled, they are a money pit !!!!!!!!!!

joe brabank · Apr 29, 2020

any suggestions on how this tractor could be salvaged,maybe a repower? if so what would be the best
match and easy to find.

Bob Bancroft · Apr 29, 2020

Lots of the same basic block gas engine version were used in combines. I've seen a 6 cylinder gas D17, which I assume was a diesel, converted.

Tramway Guy · Apr 29, 2020

Some cotton pickers used the D19 gas engine mated to the D17 chassis.

Traditional Farmer · Apr 29, 2020

For less than what you would have in a rebuild on the diesel you could most likely buy a D17 gas and use your tractor for parts.

joe brabank · Apr 29, 2020

would a G226 gas from a d17 fit in were the 262 diesel came out. the 262 was mounted with an adapter plate which also was used for the starter mount.

DrAllis · Apr 30, 2020

A D-17 gas chassis had a longer clutch shaft than a diesel, about 1 1/4" longer. A D-17 gas engine (G-226) had a real thick cast iron adapter plate moving the shorter 4-cylinder engine forward a couple of inches. So, a gas engine really isn't a easy idea. For a relatively 'easy" conversion to a gas engine, you need a G-230 or G-262 from a model A or A2 or C or C2 Gleaner combine. The only complication is the governor, as a combine isn't the same governor linkage as a tractor. The only tractor that used a G-262 is a D-19 and there were zero tractors that used a G-230. Some Cockshutt tractors used a Buda brand engine and I think some governor linkage and parts could be used, although not identical to the A-C G-series engines. Let there be no doubt that by 1957, these engines were Allis-Chalmers branded engines, not Buda.

Traditional Farmer · May 1, 2020

If the whole front plate set up is used the Cockshutt governor will work but the problem with a D17 would be the front engine mount.

DrAllis · May 1, 2020

I could fabricate what is needed to make combine governor linkage work like a tractor, but I couldn't tell anyone how to do it.

jr1983 · May 1, 2020

I just did a wd45 diesel. If the
block is broken head needs
replaced pump and injectors
needs done and crank ground with
parts and no labor you're
looking at around 6k. If all its
big parts are good and just worn
probably $1500. If it was mine
I'd see how bad it was going to
be before I started looking for
other directions. It doesnt cost
anything to pull the head.

joe brabank · May 3, 2020

head was removed,head gasket was blown between cy. 1&2 2%3 and 4&5. liners look lower then the deck. not worth measuring because when you scratch your finger nail across the liner the deck is higher. have done old cat engines by cutting the counter bores and shimming the liners.did not know if this engine would be worth the time and cash? like my grandfather always said,"you can not make a silk purse out of sows ear"

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