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D17 clutch of hi-low slipping

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VicS

12-01-2019 20:11:56




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Pulled my D17 Diesel yesterday. 4500lbs 6 mph and 8 mph. Motor running good. Pulled in 2nd hi. 18.4X38 cut tires. Chart says 9 mph at 3000. Problem was tires stopped turning at end then started again. Still got 4th in 6 mph. Probably over 15 tractors. USAP at Princeton In. How can I tell which is slipping. Or will the two speed never take 250 hp. When I drove out the door and pushed the clutch in. The tractor stopped. Like brakes were on. I moved hand clutch to neutral then to low then to hi. And problem went away. Thanks for any help.

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DrAllis

12-02-2019 07:08:31




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 Re: D17 clutch of hi-low slipping in reply to VicS, 12-01-2019 20:11:56  
Do you intend on using the Power Director clutch ?? Or just leave it in HIGH all the time ??



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VicS

12-04-2019 04:14:34




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 Re: D17 clutch of hi-low slipping in reply to DrAllis, 12-02-2019 07:08:31  
I thought I might use 3rd low but, after pulling it, 2nd hi is just right for 8 mph. And 6 mph. So think I'll take it out.But I'm going to look for a junk D19. Might just put its 2 speed in. Don't know.



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DrAllis

12-02-2019 06:21:14




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 Re: D17 clutch of hi-low slipping in reply to VicS, 12-01-2019 20:11:56  
If the hand clutch was truly slipping, placing you hand on the side of the torque housing where the clutch is, should have been pretty warm. Just a run down the track with no slippage it would still be cold.



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DrAllis

12-02-2019 05:33:34




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 Re: D17 clutch of hi-low slipping in reply to VicS, 12-01-2019 20:11:56  
250 HP ?? with no turbo ?? Well, I'd say no way will that hand clutch hold that much HP. I have a D-17 gasser that makes 100+ HP and I never have any issues with it. You should have pulled out some shims from each range to tighten it up so it could hold more for starters. If it was slipping (and not the foot clutch) you may have smoked it and now have warped plates and discs. A D-19 hand clutch has one more disc/plate in each range. That would help a lot. If you replace any driving discs, use new style discs from a model 7000 tractor p/n 70261212. They are a more aggressive friction material/design and with only two discs in the overdrive range will hold 125 PTO HP in a farm tractor.

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VicS

12-02-2019 06:35:47




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 Re: D17 clutch of hi-low slipping in reply to DrAllis, 12-02-2019 05:33:34  
Can I just loosen low range. High is plenty tight. But it would take some more.



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VicS

12-02-2019 06:32:21




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 Re: D17 clutch of hi-low slipping in reply to DrAllis, 12-02-2019 05:33:34  
I think we did use new style discs. I think you are right must have warped discs. 600cu. 20.5 compression ratio. Head flows 40% more. Good cam. Putting 48% more fuel than a 7080. Doesn't smoke as bad as a stock 7080. Thanks for your quick reply. Hoping to take it to Tunica. But!@!!!. Probably cant fix that quick. Vic.



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VicS

12-02-2019 06:31:28




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 Re: D17 clutch of hi-low slipping in reply to DrAllis, 12-02-2019 05:33:34  
I think we did use new style discs. I think you are right must have warped discs. 600cu. 20.5 compression ratio. Head flows 40% more. Good cam. Putting 48% more fuel than a 7080. Doesn't smoke as bad as a stock 7080. Thanks for your quick reply. Hoping to take it to Tunica. But!@!!!. Probably cant fix that quick. Vic.



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