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D17 Brakes

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dhermesc

11-29-2019 09:29:54




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IS there a good "how to" video on changing brakes on a D17? I saw one recently where they got it about 1/3 of the way done then cut to the end and explained that they ended up using a torch to cut away some of the parts....

I need to get at least one working brake on this tractor.




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DrAllis

12-01-2019 08:50:08




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 Re: D17 Brakes in reply to dhermesc, 11-29-2019 09:29:54  
Both axle/final drives must be removed (one at a time). Start with the left side as it is the easier of the two. A torch will probably be needed to heat up the frozen brake rods for removal and to cut the top band pin into pieces to remove it. The hydraulic console on the right DOES NOT need to be removed !!! Just unbolt it from the fender bracket and place a prop under it to the platform to raise it up a couple of inches. Disconnect as much linkage as needed for the axle/final to slide out underneath it. Replace all four brake bands, all eight springs, and all four disc brake linings. Also replace the differential seal and Oring on the carrier. I flat rate the job at 8 hrs to do both sides. You must have a cherry picker or hoist to handle the axle/final. I have a hoist heavy enough to handle the tire with fluid and axle/final. For a beginner, I would remove the tire/wheel first.

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dhermesc

12-03-2019 09:02:52




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 Re: D17 Brakes in reply to DrAllis, 12-01-2019 08:50:08  
I wish you were closer - I am only looking at doing the left side. I thought about paying local dealer to do it - they started talking at least $2000 plus any unexpected costs and I decided I would rather do it myself. Seems like a horrible design for something that is a normal wear part that needs changed on a somewhat regular basis.



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dhermesc

12-01-2019 06:01:16




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 Re: D17 Brakes in reply to dhermesc, 11-29-2019 09:29:54  
Series 4 - with about 8000 hours and I doubt the brakes have ever been done on it. The adjustment is froze - both rods have been cut and welded shorter by the previous owner. What little braking it had left on the left brake is completely gone now - son ran it all day baling hay without realizing it was on.

I am assuming this will need a everything once its apart.



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dhermesc

12-01-2019 06:30:59




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 Re: D17 Brakes in reply to dhermesc, 12-01-2019 06:01:16  
Series IV - 1967 model - Gas



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DrAllis

11-29-2019 15:31:26




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 Re: D17 Brakes in reply to dhermesc, 11-29-2019 09:29:54  
Are you sure they just don't need to be adjusted/tightened up ?? Two different styles of brakes and two different ways to adjust them. What series is your tractor? or what year ??



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Tramway Guy

11-29-2019 10:24:56




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 Re: D17 Brakes in reply to dhermesc, 11-29-2019 09:29:54  
Which version? There were two different versions. Early type was a external contracting shoe drum brake. Later ones were band/disc type.



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JMS/.MN

11-30-2019 15:11:01




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 Re: D17 Brakes in reply to Tramway Guy, 11-29-2019 10:24:56  
Series III had the band/disc brakes, like the F2 combine. Earlier were like a WD.



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