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C steering segment gear and pinion gear

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Buddy Terry

11-06-2019 17:21:29

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I'm in need of some expert advice on my C narrow front end, was wobbling so bad that you looked like you had been at the bar. On a more serious note, Had almost a full round of free play in steering wheel, adjust steering gear box, no results, found steering arm on bolster had lots of free play, remove lower bolster checked pinion and segment gear, did not see anything, had another steering arm and segment from another C parts tractor, installed them and reinstalled bolster, steering so tight that it was hard too steer, even with front end off ground, reinstalled tires and lowered, now that load is on it, cannot turn wheels backed off nut on shaft but still no response. So how tight should the nut be on segment gear, according to manual as tight as you can get it, so would the segment gear and shaft cause problem, they are splined versus tapered that was removed. Sorry for long post. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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Buddy Terry

11-07-2019 05:09:02

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 Re: C steering segment gear and pinion gear in reply to Buddy Terry, 11-06-2019 17:21:29  
Thanks Dick L. for the drawing break down, easier too see parts with it enlarged. But do you know how tight the segment gear nut on the steering shaft should be? Like I said earlier, the shop manual say's as tight as you can get it, but that locks it down. I guess I will look at something else too see what is locking it up, they are no shims that go on this area

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Dick L

11-07-2019 03:44:53

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 Re: C steering segment gear and pinion gear in reply to Buddy Terry, 11-06-2019 17:21:29  
You post was not long enough for my mind to pick put what was changed. Here are a couple drawings that might help with terminology.

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Dick L

11-07-2019 15:27:19

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 Re: C steering segment gear and pinion gear in reply to Dick L, 11-07-2019 03:44:53  
You first have to determine if it is a Ross or Gemmer steering box.

The link above just below the last picture takes you to pictures of the ross steering box.
The link below in this post will take you to the Gemmer steering box. Both were used in the C's.

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