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1954allis

10-30-2019 08:19:11




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My grand father has a 1954 allis chalmers model b and we found out that the right rear bearing is gone and the final drive oil pan had no oil in it. So me and my father went and took off the wheel and pan with no problem at all to find that the bearing had fell a part.Then we went for the big retainer nut and got that loose.But this is what were stuck on how dose the nut come off the shaft we made shure the nut is loose as possible unless there is a snap rinh at the end of the threads

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Traditional Farmer

10-31-2019 06:50:30




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 Re: Help me please in reply to 1954allis, 10-30-2019 08:19:11  
Where do you live? I have several B tractors sitting here I've used for parts that should have a good working final drive on them.



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1954allis

10-31-2019 06:58:20




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 Re: Help me please in reply to Traditional Farmer, 10-31-2019 06:50:30  
Alton va



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Traditional Farmer

10-31-2019 07:25:25




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 Re: Help me please in reply to 1954allis, 10-31-2019 06:58:20  
We're pretty close I'm just North of Charlottesville off US29.



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1954allis

10-31-2019 08:44:24




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 Re: Help me please in reply to Traditional Farmer, 10-31-2019 07:25:25  
how much would one be?



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Traditional Farmer

10-31-2019 09:11:31




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 Re: Help me please in reply to 1954allis, 10-31-2019 08:44:24  
Bring your tools and you can name the price,always good to see someone want to keep these running.Curious what do you use the B for?



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1954allis

10-31-2019 09:21:39




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 Re: Help me please in reply to Traditional Farmer, 10-31-2019 09:11:31  
Disking hipping rows pulling logs cultivating pulling tree stumps pulling cinder blocks chained together to make a path through the woods laying off rows and some other stuff



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Traditional Farmer

10-31-2019 09:33:09




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 Re: Help me please in reply to 1954allis, 10-31-2019 09:21:39  
Sounds like a good ole B.I probably have some other B stuff around you might be able to use.I've been hauling in AC and other tractor related stuff for over 40 years.Some of my
relatives were from Halifax County including Governor Bill Tuck.

Send me an email.



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1954allis

11-01-2019 06:36:05




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 Re: Help me please in reply to Traditional Farmer, 10-31-2019 09:33:09  
Can I fit a 5 lug wheel on a single bolt hub?



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Traditional Farmer

11-01-2019 08:25:58




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 Re: Help me please in reply to 1954allis, 11-01-2019 06:36:05  
I think you can swap the 5 lug axle stub out with the one bolt stub.I'll check later on what rears I have over in the field I may have a parts B with a 5 lug axle stub.
Of course you could put the whole single nut final drive with that wheel center and use your tire and rim on it,just be different styles on each side.



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1954allis

11-01-2019 08:29:19




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 Re: Help me please in reply to Traditional Farmer, 11-01-2019 08:25:58  
Ok just wondering



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chaskaduo

10-31-2019 05:26:16




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 Re: Help me please in reply to 1954allis, 10-30-2019 08:19:11  
This is one I found

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nvxDDuq8gSc9ex2Y4n4wH3OWvMt8Foeb/view

HTH



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Dick L

10-31-2019 03:25:54




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 Re: Help me please in reply to 1954allis, 10-30-2019 08:19:11  
The axle is pressed in. It is not a slip fit. To remove the nut the axle needs to move out at the same time nut is turned off.



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1954allis

10-31-2019 07:17:54




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 Re: Help me please in reply to Dick L, 10-31-2019 03:25:54  
Just to be sure are you talking about the hub axel that the wheel bolts to



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Dick L

10-31-2019 09:12:03




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 Re: Help me please in reply to 1954allis, 10-31-2019 07:17:54  
Yes sir: If you try to beat it out you may get to buy a different axle shaft. I have always removed the final drive as in the picture. It can be done without removing the final drive using a bottle jack and chains or some way to hold the bottle jack. Just a lot of rolling around on the floor that way.



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Jim.ME

10-30-2019 12:31:16




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 Re: Help me please in reply to 1954allis, 10-30-2019 08:19:11  
Go to https://apb.agcocorp.com/login.aspx?region=NorthAmerica. Click on "View Books" in the Guest User area. Next page enter 79001543 (which is the parts book number for the B/IB/C tractors) for a model search and that should get you the parts book. Be sure you look at the right pages for the B as well as serial number ranges.

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1954allis

10-30-2019 12:44:32




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 Re: Help me please in reply to Jim.ME, 10-30-2019 12:31:16  
Im looking now.



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1954allis

10-30-2019 12:53:48




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 Re: Help me please in reply to 1954allis, 10-30-2019 12:44:32  
OK i just found what i think is my problem at the end of the shaft there is a snap ring that looks to be holding the nut on the end of the shaft.
so if i remove this snap ring do you think that will let me remove the nut or not?



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Aaron SEIA

10-30-2019 11:08:02




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 Re: Help me please in reply to 1954allis, 10-30-2019 08:19:11  
You can go to https://na.apb.agcocorp.com/p/agcoallis/79001543/l/144? and view the parts book. I think there is a guy who has digitized the service manual and has it in pdf form on line. If you can't find it, I have one and I can help you figure it out. From the pictures, it looks like you need some pretty beefy pullers for a couple steps.

AaronSEIA



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1954allis

10-30-2019 11:29:13




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 Re: Help me please in reply to Aaron SEIA, 10-30-2019 11:08:02  
I tried looking for those manuals and could not find them but it would be very helpful if you could walk me through it. Iíll try to send a video if I can.



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