D 17 diesel engine swap questions?

r.w.b.

Well-known Member
Got a d 17 diesel with big hole in block.
Was thinking of what gleaner had the gas engine
that would be a drop in,buda 6b230? And what
flywheel will it need as well as other parts?
 
Gleaner model A and A2 had the 230 engine. Gleaners model C and C2 and early model F combines had the G-262. Use your flywheel from the tractor on the combine engine. The governor and variable speed linkage will be your worst issue, as those parts only come from a D-19 gas tractor.
 
Thanks,was thinking A wasnt sure.seen several that had that change.tractor is decent ,nice rubber tin excellent rubber boot on gear shift is soft and pliable giving impression its been kept up.owner said it ran great,was pulling a plow and out of sky blue it made a loud noise and he took an oil bath. Things happen
 
(quoted from post at 04:05:47 08/26/19) 301 would be even better.
The biggest problem with that (other than it is too long for the frame) is you'll not be able to use the factory power steering. The only power steering option would be an external Charlynn unit with lots of steering shaft mods.
 
I saw a 301 crammed into a D19. What an ugly mess. When my F2 went down the road, I had day dreams about putting that 4 cyl into a D19. I wonder if anyone has done that? I had owned three of those engines. Two in combines and one in a tractor. What a little powerhouse.
 
I've seen a D-19 with the F-2 engine in it and it too was done badly. He dropped the whole front support to allow the power steering cylinder to clear the engine, so as a result the nose was way up in the air. Looked like crap. I'm starting a project this Fall of an F-2 turbo diesel engine into a NF D-17 series 3 and the plan is to make it look factory (no bubbles in the hood). I'll probably go to a wide front with a steering cylinder crossways like on a late 170-175. Hope to be done by spring. It will have "live" hydraulics like a D-17 S4 with the pump on the engine like a 190 tractor. Power steering will be hydrostatic also.
 
I did a D-19 swap with a 190 XT turbo diesel. Mine looks good and doesn't look like it was put in with an axe. Everything depends on your skill level and imagination. Most of the upgrades bolt on off a 190/200. Some fab also needed to be done. I call mine a D-19 series II. Al
 
So, what did you do for the power steering?? Did you use the XT wide front with the steering ram built into the axle ??
 
Yes 190 axle with steering cylinder. Still used 19 knees and spindles. U put the steering motor behind the left frame rail and used the same steering shaft off the 19, just used a spline welded to it to run the motor, both off the 190. You can see hoses, but everything else is behind the frame rail. Al
 
Would love to see pics of the axle in that chassis. I'm going to put the orbitrol under the gas tank so it is hidden. I can't use a 190 axle frame because it's too long under a D-17 gas chassis. I could shorten the frame yes, but the steering cylinder length cannot be changed to keep the swing arm working correctly. That's why I'm thinking the cylinder connected crossways to the tie rods like a late 170-175. I'll know more when I get the old engine out and 4-banger in.
 
I realize this is an older post, but I wanted to report back on my power steering. I was able to connect a Char-Lynn orbit motor directly to the steering gear worm gear. There was just enough room to do this. So, my steering orbitrol is under the fuel tank out of sight, with two hoses running down to the Char-Lynn steering motor. Drives nice and was able to keep my narrow front wheels. The whole 4-cylinder turbo-diesel engine swap turned out very well. Looks factory. Have pics but don't know how to post them.
 

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