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D17- 3 point hitch

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gregjo1948

06-28-2019 04:56:19




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Just got a D17 with 3 point hitch and will only lift if the clutch is engaged. Is this normal or is there something I'm missing to make the lift live whether the clutch is engaged or not? It reminds me of the older Ford N series tractors.




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cole in mo.

06-28-2019 16:56:49




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 Re: D17- 3 point hitch in reply to gregjo1948, 06-28-2019 04:56:19  
If using the pto, depress the foot clutch, put the hand clutch in natural, engage the pto, and put the trans I what ever gear you want, then let up on the foot clutch which will make the pto turn, then take off using the hand clutch in either lo or hi, just remember when you want to stop, and keep the pto running, use the hand clutch. And don't ever grind the gears in the trans.



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Aaron SEIA

06-28-2019 09:34:25




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 Re: D17- 3 point hitch in reply to gregjo1948, 06-28-2019 04:56:19  
The power director acts similar to a TA for speed, but has a neutral in between. Note, you can slip the power director in high or low. Its a 2 speed oil bath clutch setup. Solid as a rock vs the somewhat unreliable and failure prone TA.

AaronSEIA



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Aaron SEIA

06-28-2019 07:21:50




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 Re: D17- 3 point hitch in reply to gregjo1948, 06-28-2019 04:56:19  
Thats what the power director clutch is for. Nothing works on a D17 when your foot is on the clutch.
AaronSEIA



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old

06-28-2019 07:14:22




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 Re: D17- 3 point hitch in reply to gregjo1948, 06-28-2019 04:56:19  
That is normal



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DrAllis

06-28-2019 06:39:46




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 Re: D17- 3 point hitch in reply to gregjo1948, 06-28-2019 04:56:19  
Use the hand clutch to stop motion of the tractor and the hydraulics and PTO still function.



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DrAllis

06-28-2019 05:15:29




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 Re: D17- 3 point hitch in reply to gregjo1948, 06-28-2019 04:56:19  
Sounds pretty normal for any D-17 that is NOT a series 4 model.



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gregjo1948

06-28-2019 07:42:39




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 Re: D17- 3 point hitch in reply to DrAllis, 06-28-2019 05:15:29  
Thank you all for your replies...I have a 504 Farmall /International that has a torque amplifier which drops about 1/2 gear, giving the tractor a slower ground speed and more power. I thought that was the same thing on the D17 because it also dropped about 1/2 gear. So, you're saying by using the "hand clutch", I will then have live PTO and 3 point hitch ????? Thanks, gregjo1948



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old

06-28-2019 08:05:55




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 Re: D17- 3 point hitch in reply to gregjo1948, 06-28-2019 07:42:39  
Yes but they do tend to sort of keep going even in neutral on the hand clutch.



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dhermesc

07-02-2019 14:02:00




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 Re: D17- 3 point hitch in reply to old, 06-28-2019 08:05:55  
They keep nudging forward like a horse pulling on the reins.



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gregjo1948

06-28-2019 08:31:59




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 Re: D17- 3 point hitch in reply to old, 06-28-2019 08:05:55  
I'll give it a try and hopefully it will make brush hogging better. gregjo1948



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