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john achmann

06-03-2019 09:25:22




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Kinda got a long story but Iíll try to keep it short. A family friend have acquired their family farm after their parents passed away last fall. I had done a lot of repair work for the parents for some years. To settle the estate they had to sell most of the equipment including the tractors. They kept the d14 that was there and some hay making equipment. This is what they will use for now to get back going. Talked to the husband yesterday and he mentioned next year to find something bigger to run a round baler. So I know where a 190 is sitting that has sat for many years. Donít know last time it ran or why it was parked. Donít know if gas or diesel. I Have some experience with allis but not many 190s in my area. What is the pto they have? Is it set up like the d19s? Was the pinion problem fixed later in the years? Iím asking as they trust my judgment and knowledge on tractors. Iíd like to help them out buy getting a tractor, fix it up as needed and let them use it till they are on their feet to get something themselves or buy the tractor from me. If the tractor is a money pit Iíll walk away. Think I can get it real cheap but might not be cheap To repair. Any advice on this tractor would be helpful.

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Traditional Farmer

06-04-2019 05:35:03




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 Re: 190 allis questions in reply to john achmann, 06-03-2019 09:25:22  
The deal maker or breaker for me on a 190 for baling is whether the PTO is mechanically or hydraulically engaged.If hydraulically engaged its a great tractor to run
a round baler.If it has to be mechanically engaged it gets to be a real pain to reach down under the seat for that lever all the time.If its a diesel and has been sitting, plan on injection pump work as the fiber ring in the Roasa Master pumps will dry out and when started to be used again they usually start coming apart.As far as the rear end it won't be a problem baling,those gave trouble mostly when the tractors were over weighted,fuel turned up and used for heavy tillage.I ran a 190 XT for 10 years on a round baler with almost no issues.

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Jim Phelps

06-04-2019 05:13:56




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 Re: 190 allis questions in reply to john achmann, 06-03-2019 09:25:22  
Never had a 190, I have a 185 and pulled a JD round baler made 5 x 6 bales all day with no problems. I know the motor is the same but the rear ends are different between a 190 and 185. I personally love the power director for baling over using a foot clutch but I grew up on a d-15 using a NH 273 square baler back in the 70's. I would never bale with anything else but the allis with the power director if I had my choice.

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KL in Wi

06-04-2019 04:31:49




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 Re: 190 allis questions in reply to john achmann, 06-03-2019 09:25:22  
The PTO is like the D19. Push the foot clutch down and it will stop. If you put the hi/lo range lever, (can't think what they call it) in between the ranges, the tractor will stop moving and the PTO will keep running. They did have pinion problems on the early ones but when that was updated they were very dependable. The later ones had no problems.



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chaskaduo

06-03-2019 14:38:59




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 Re: 190 allis questions in reply to john achmann, 06-03-2019 09:25:22  
I can't answer your question, but I need more friends like you. Very nice of you, they must be good people too.



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old

06-03-2019 10:10:59




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 Re: 190 allis questions in reply to john achmann, 06-03-2019 09:25:22  
Years ago I knew a tractor dealer who said he would never have a 190 or an XT190 on his place. I had an XT190 years ago and it was for the most part good after I got the engine freed up and the injector pump rebuilt. Cost me over $800 for the injector pump rebuild. But I got rid of it because it was to big for my 44 acres and it played with the NH850 baler and was rated to big for the NH850 to boot

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D F S.D.

06-03-2019 17:56:49




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 Re: 190 allis questions in reply to old, 06-03-2019 10:10:59  
A 190 or 190XT Allis does not have Live power take off or not a real live PTO while using the foot clutch



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JMS/.MN

06-04-2019 12:07:17




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 Re: 190 allis questions in reply to D F S.D., 06-03-2019 17:56:49  
It has live power...you can stop forward travel with the pto still running. It does not have independent pto- that is when you can start/stop the pto whenever the engine is running.



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Traditional Farmer

06-04-2019 05:26:37




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 Re: 190 allis questions in reply to D F S.D., 06-03-2019 17:56:49  
That is why it has TWO clutches.



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