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Dick L

01-29-2019 14:49:46




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I understand your comment about the 5020 vibration now. The 5020 is the same tractor as my Simplicity 9523 and for some reason the 9523 does not vibrate near as much as the 5020 I just bought. I thought you were being picky but this 5020 only has 205 hours now and the fenders are cracked close to where the cab bolts fast. When it warms up I'll see if I can find the difference. There is a big difference between the two.

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lfnel

01-30-2019 07:37:43




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 Re: Hey Butch in reply to Dick L, 01-29-2019 14:49:46  
Per chance does it have a 3-cylinder engine. They can vibrate pretty bad.



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Dick L

01-30-2019 07:49:00




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 Re: Hey Butch in reply to lfnel, 01-30-2019 07:37:43  
I bought it sight unseen and it was delivered after I needed it two weeks ago with 4 inches of snow. I have used it three times so far and only checked the oil and put in fuel. It has a block heater and starts right up easy. I really have not lifted the hood. The hood is held down some way other than the rubber knob things because of the cab. I don't think it is a three cylinder engine but something I need to look for.

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lfnel

01-30-2019 08:04:35




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 Re: Hey Butch in reply to Dick L, 01-30-2019 07:49:00  
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/1/9/192-allis-chalmers-5020.html says it's made by Hinomoto and is a two-cylinder Diesel engine. That for sure accounts for the vibration. A 3-cylindr can be tamed some. Pretty hard to tame the vibration out of an in-line two cylinder engine. Learn to like it. My snow shovel has only one cylinder!



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Dick L

01-30-2019 10:39:30




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 Re: Hey Butch in reply to lfnel, 01-30-2019 08:04:35  
What I was talking about with Butch was I have two tractors with supposedly the same engines with one that vibrates much more than the other. Being 80 and have been in the field on tractors since I was 8 I am well aware with living with vibrations. (:^D



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lfnel

01-30-2019 12:55:07




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 Re: Hey Butch in reply to Dick L, 01-30-2019 10:39:30  
Dick: Yeh, me too, but got you beat by 2 years. It's good to have something that vibrates! In the mean time, hang in there.



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Butch(oh)

01-29-2019 17:57:11




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 Re: Hey Butch in reply to Dick L, 01-29-2019 14:49:46  
Ya Dick, the one I looked at was bad, real bad and it was in pristine condition too. A person wouldnt think that different engines were used in the Simplicity tractors but certainly possible.



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lfnel

01-30-2019 15:19:54




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 Re: Hey Butch in reply to Butch(oh), 01-29-2019 17:57:11  
From this site http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/006/8/9/6896-simplicity-9523.html it looks like the Simplicity Model 9523 tractor uses the same 3.26" X 3.74" (B X S) Hinomoto engine as the AC 5020. I'd guess the tractors are nearly identical. Site says Simplicity sold theirs from '78 to '83, AC from '77 to '85. Maybe sheet metal being in worse shape on one tractor than the other makes it seem like it vibrates more. If the engine is soft mounted, which I doubt, maybe the engine mounts are shot in one. Maybe the front crankshaft vibration dampener is shot on the vibrating tractor.

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