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nzak

12-17-2018 14:46:14




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i rebuilt the carb because it was flooding.
it changed nothing still floods.
allis chalmers 170 zenith carb 13294
I replaced the needle and seat again because it was sticking still not helping gas is coming out of the manifold, replaced all manifold gaskets and also used gasket maker to hold in place still comes out.
any help what could be wrong next i was thinking to replace float.




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chaskaduo

01-11-2019 09:07:38




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to nzak, 12-17-2018 14:46:14  
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Any luck with your carb yet?



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Nzak

01-11-2019 09:38:58




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to chaskaduo, 01-11-2019 09:07:38  
Nope gave up. Now it drips fuel all the time. And something else is wrong,will not start. Message up firing order battery goes dead because I keep trying to start it. To cold to work outside.



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Raptor44

12-22-2018 09:42:04




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to nzak, 12-17-2018 14:46:14  
Mine did the same thing. Ditched the rubber tip needle valve and put the solid Steele one back in. Problem solved.



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Nzak

12-22-2018 14:54:39




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to Raptor44, 12-22-2018 09:42:04  
Where can I get just the needle.



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cole in mo.

12-18-2018 16:24:46




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to nzak, 12-17-2018 14:46:14  
Make sure the gasket is on the needle seat, and the right one.



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mdm1

12-18-2018 15:57:59




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to nzak, 12-17-2018 14:46:14  
Put a q-tip in a drill and put some metal polish on the end of it and run it on the needle seat. Spray with cleaner afterwards. That has worked for me. As said above tap the needle if it is rubber tipped in the seat. Adjust the float as per specs. Hold the carb upside down and blow into the fuel inlet it should not let air in. Do the same right side up and air should go though. I think alot of us have had that problem.

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Nzak

12-22-2018 14:56:49




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to mdm1, 12-18-2018 15:57:59  
Did that still same thing



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chaskaduo

12-18-2018 14:08:29




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to nzak, 12-17-2018 14:46:14  
I have been told if you have a rubber tip on the needle valve to tap it into the seat to kinda set it. Not fool proof but may help.



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rickymotorbrains

12-17-2018 14:59:04




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to nzak, 12-17-2018 14:46:14  
is the float filling up with gas they get small leaks in them and get gas in them



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Nzak

12-17-2018 16:24:59




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to rickymotorbrains, 12-17-2018 14:59:04  
No there is not gas in the float but I adjusted it in the wrong place probably messed it up. Then tried adjust it again and i drop it. Dented it a bit.



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rickymotorbrains

12-17-2018 16:49:43




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to Nzak, 12-17-2018 16:24:59  
dents wont hurt it as long as there isn't any holes in it check and make sure all the vent holes are open and not blocked with dirt if air holes in carb stop up it will cause it to flood out



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Nzak

12-18-2018 12:09:07




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to rickymotorbrains, 12-17-2018 16:49:43  
I disassemble it completely soaked it in the 1 gallon can overnight. Bought carb cleaner sprayed it in all holes. Could it be possible that the main jet is bad or float not adjust correct. I'm disassemble it tonight again.



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d beatty

12-18-2018 12:24:24




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to Nzak, 12-18-2018 12:09:07  
Get you a set of cutting torch tip files. find the one or ones that fit passage way holes in carb and make sure they are open. Just soaking doesn't always totally open passages.



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rickymotorbrains

12-18-2018 12:39:34




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to d beatty, 12-18-2018 12:24:24  
you could of got a bad needle valve or seat



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Nzak

12-18-2018 16:49:02




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to rickymotorbrains, 12-18-2018 12:39:34  
That's what i thought after doing research. Had a new one sent again still the same thing.



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rickymotorbrains

12-22-2018 08:19:18




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to Nzak, 12-18-2018 16:49:02  
ever get carb fixed



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Nzak

12-22-2018 14:38:18




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to rickymotorbrains, 12-22-2018 08:19:18  
Nope. Just got in with installing it again.
Tractor run good but gas is running down from manifold gaskets still. I'm thinking there something else wrong. Anyone ever have trouble with the main jet screw under the carburetor maybe that's letting to much gas in. Mine is really loose if I turn it in it will stall. This is not my first rebuilt 9 years ago I rebuilt the other tractor carburetor same model with no problems.

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nzak

01-03-2019 01:20:19




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to Nzak, 12-22-2018 14:38:18  
Replaced the main jet asy still floods.



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Nzak

12-22-2018 18:55:40




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 Re: carb. rebuilt in reply to Nzak, 12-22-2018 14:38:18  
Next I'm taking the carburetor off my 1st 170 and installing it on this 170 tomorrow.
Then I will know for sure it is the carburetor.



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