PTO live power D-15

olgentdc · Aug 31, 2018

A Friend of mine has trouble with his D-15, He wants it to stop moving, when he
pulls the hi-lo lever to the neutral position and the transmission is in gear , We believe the PTO live power clutch needs adjusting ,That is ,if, The D-15 should stop moving in that position ? Sure would make a nice baleing tractor if it worked right.

We think the adjusting should occur right behind the bolted plate that has the hi-lo shifter bracket ,But really don't Know for sure . But , We know more about the other Orange tractors.

old · Aug 31, 2018

The power director sort of set up is oil bath so if cold or in a low gear it can and will keep pulling. Good brakes go a long ways on them. My D-17 does that till warmed up but almost always does it in first gear unless it has a load.

Traditional Farmer · Sep 1, 2018

Pretty much the way it goes with those you'll have to tap the brakes most times to get the clutch to release most times then it'll sit in neutral.the more you use it the better it'll work most times.

olgentdc · Sep 1, 2018

certainly could use more run in time. just sitting there looking pretty. Is there no adjustment for the power divider ? that is strange.i doubt if any lucas products would improve this problem as they tend to stick up more than to lube ,, perhaps "slik 50 " .or ATF in the tranny oil ? Thanks for replies Guys

rankrank1 · Sep 1, 2018

I believe most of the power directors are adjustable somewhat especially if it is not snapping good into the high position like it should or snapping in to the low position like it should.

It involves moving shims from one side of the stack to the other side of the stack in the power director clutch to compensate for wear (not adding or removing shims though). This adjustment sorta ends up being a compromise for all 3 positions as in high neutral, and low so a well worn unit may never operate exactly like it did when it was new but should otherwise be fully functional for farm tasks once adjusted.

Anyway, I would expect and accept some slight creep when you move the power director lever to neutral, or in other words the tractor may never perfectly stop, but I would not expect the tractor to keep moving at the same speed of whatever gear the tractor is as it should almost nearly stop.

rankrank1 · Sep 1, 2018

I believe most of the power directors are adjustable somewhat especially if it is not snapping good into the high position like it should or snapping in to the low position like it should.

It involves moving shims from one side of the stack to the other side of the stack in the power director clutch to compensate for wear (not adding or removing shims though). This adjustment sorta ends up being a compromise for all 3 positions as in high neutral, and low so a well worn unit may never operate exactly like it did when it was new but should otherwise be fully functional for farm tasks once adjusted.

Anyway, I would expect and accept some slight creep when you move the power director lever to neutral, or in other words the tractor may never perfectly stop, but I would not expect the tractor to keep moving at the same speed of whatever gear the tractor is as it should almost nearly stop.

Jim.ME · Sep 1, 2018

There is a neutral adjustment procedure for the lever quadrant in the service manual. It is all external. The D14 service manual references adjusting the lever quadrant neutral position to "the least tendency to creep". I wouldn't use the power director as a true neutral, it is a wet clutch intended to change ranges and provide a way to stop travel, without using the engine clutch, keeping the pto and hydraulics live. They do have a tendency to creep, more so when cold. On mine if you feather the lever to find the sweet spot in the neutral area and they will stop when warm. I don't know that they ever had what I would call a true neutral position where you could trust the tractor to set in one place while running. Yes, you have to use the brakes at times to hold them when using the power director to stop travel. They work fine on a baler, we always keep a hand on the lever when in neutral.

olgentdc · Sep 1, 2018

From what little seat time I had, I think that Hi-Lo on the power director are
about equal ,I honestly cant tell where either the PTO or power director could
be adjusted externally .From my experience with CASE ,ATF might help this
trouble ,.No One here has given that a nod, and I wish You guys could confirm
that is a workable option ,

DrAllis · Sep 1, 2018

ATF will surely help any "creeping" issue the Power Director clutch might have with oil that isn't up to 150 of more degrees F. Takes 2 to 2 1/2 gallons. I've got $$$$$ that there isn't ANYTHING wrong. You just think there is.

Traditional Farmer · Sep 2, 2018

Pretty much standard practice with the D series Power Director put it neutral and apply the brakes at the same time to bring the tractor to a stop.As Dr Allis said the hotter the oil gets and the more its used the easier the clutch plates release.

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