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D 14 split/update

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Dave Allgire

07-21-2017 10:23:56




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OK, I was able to do as Dr. Allis suggested. I put the Power Commander in neutral, transmission in 4th, and let the foot clutch out. The bearing/scraping noise (hard to describe) is now coming from under the seat. So am I looking at bearings in the tranny or the intermediate gear train? I've got all the books but, not had any experience working on a D 14 so I'm looking for suggestions to head me in the right direction. Thanks.

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Dave Allgire

07-21-2017 14:39:46




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 Re: D 14 split/update in reply to Dave Allgire, 07-21-2017 10:23:56  
I opened up the power commander side plate and found another "ton" of metal in the bottom. From what I can see it looks like the clutch plates in the power commander are eating themselves up. I did not find any metal in the hydraulic pump sump. When I split it previously, I did not notice any bearing problems in the front of the power commander area for the PTO or the intermediate shaft. So it's splits time and disassembly of the power commander for starters.

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DrAllis

07-21-2017 11:53:29




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 Re: D 14 split/update in reply to Dave Allgire, 07-21-2017 10:23:56  
[quote="CVPost-Dave Allgire"](quoted from post at 11:34:50 07/21/17) If I'm understanding correctly, I'm looking at a double split or can I do everything through the openings in the torque tube after splitting from the tranny? If the problem is in the intermediate/PTO gears, that is a single split at the dashboard and drop the hydraulic pump out of the belly. You don't have the hydraulic levers clear up do you??? or the PTO engaged when you hear this noise???

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Dave Allgire

07-21-2017 12:06:11




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 Re: D 14 split/update in reply to DrAllis, 07-21-2017 11:53:29  
The rockshaft is down and the PTO is NOT engaged.



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Tramway Guy

07-21-2017 11:07:12




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 Re: D 14 split/update in reply to Dave Allgire, 07-21-2017 10:23:56  
Might be the hydraulic pump/cam or PTO bearings or the clutch shaft bearings.



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DrAllis

07-21-2017 10:46:55




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 Re: D 14 split/update in reply to Dave Allgire, 07-21-2017 10:23:56  
If the transmission is in 4th gear (or any gear for that matter) and the Power Director clutch is in neutral, there are NO tranny gears turning when tractor is sitting still and foot clutch pedal is up !!! Only the intermediate gears under the dashboard are turning. The Power Director clutch housing itself isn't even turning.....only the discs inside of it and all the gears ahead of it.



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Dave Allgire

07-21-2017 11:34:50




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 Re: D 14 split/update in reply to DrAllis, 07-21-2017 10:46:55  
If I'm understanding correctly, I'm looking at a double split or can I do everything through the openings in the torque tube after splitting from the tranny?



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