Welcome! Please use the navigational links on your left to explore our website.

Company Logo Shop Now
   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 
Marketplace
Classified Ads
Photo Ads
Tractor Parts

Community
Discussion Forums
Project Journals
Your Stories
Show & Pull Guide
Events Calendar
Hauling Schedule

Galleries
Tractor Photos
Implement Photos
Vintage Photos
Help Identify
Parts & Pieces
Stuck & Troubled
Vintage Ads
Community Album
Photo Ad Archives

Research & Info
Articles
Tractor Registry
Tip of the Day
Safety Cartoons
Tractor Values
Serial Numbers
Tune-Up Guide
Paint Codes
List Prices
Production Nbrs
Tune-Up Specs
Torque Values
3-Point Specs
Glossary

Miscellaneous
Tractor Games
Just For Kids
Virtual Show
Museum Guide
Memorial Page
Feedback Form

Yesterday's Tractors Facebook Page

Related Sites
Tractor Shed
Ford 8N/9N Club
Kountry Life
  
Allis Chalmers Discussion Forum
:

Allis b and c questions for allis experts

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author  [Modern View]
jocco

05-24-2017 06:47:08




Report to Moderator

I am not a regular here on the AC forum. I am looking at some b and c tractors and was wondering if the only big difference is the front end? Could any of you tell me if motor, tranny, rear end etc. is the same? Thanks much.




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
steve(ill)

05-24-2017 15:49:17




Report to Moderator
 Re: Allis b and c questions for allis experts in reply to jocco, 05-24-2017 06:47:08  
The tractors B and C , use the same radiator, fan, hood, engine, clutch, transmission, bevel gear, and pto housing...the radiator shroud is cut out on the C for the second steering gear box drive.... the C final drives are 6 inches wider on each side or 12 inches total tractor width.. Internal parts can not be mixed.. but you can remove a final drive case and install the entire unit off the other tractor. The tractors use the same rims and tires.. the wheel HUB is different as the final drive bull axle is different. The steering boxes are different and not interchangeable. The steering box on a B drives directly to the left side wheel king pin... the C steering box drives to a second gear box in front of the radiator as most C tractors were narrow front ends.. All B tractors were wide front ends. C could be either.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Traditional Farmer

05-24-2017 13:33:21




Report to Moderator
 Re: Allis b and c questions for allis experts in reply to jocco, 05-24-2017 06:47:08  
B's had 3 front end options over the years,C also had 3 front end options all different from the B ones.As said the C final drives are wider,C always had the bolt on rear hubs the B changed to the same hub during the later part of production.B first had the BE engine but changed over to the CE engine when the C went into production.C has a wider draw bar.Both had several fender variations over the years.C has a different grill to make room for the steering arm.C and B steering boxes turn opposite each other.B had a at least 4 front wheel options over the years,have seen 3 different front wheels on a C

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
ed in cny

05-24-2017 12:36:44




Report to Moderator
 Re: Allis b and c questions for allis experts in reply to jocco, 05-24-2017 06:47:08  
I'v seen B's with C rear ends and the other way around so I know they change out. It's likely they change at the torque tube. Front ends as well can inter change but not everything. Steering boxes are different as is the way the work. So there are some things that work some things that don't. Good little tractor and hard working.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
old

05-24-2017 09:05:43




Report to Moderator
 Re: Allis b and c questions for allis experts in reply to jocco, 05-24-2017 06:47:08  
The engine is the same on both but as the others have said a few other things are different



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Jocco

05-24-2017 12:38:56




Report to Moderator
 Re: Allis b and c questions for allis experts in reply to old, 05-24-2017 09:05:43  
Old can you tell me anymore?



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
old

05-24-2017 12:45:28




Report to Moderator
 Re: Allis b and c questions for allis experts in reply to Jocco, 05-24-2017 12:38:56  
Like what?? Most of the sheet metal is the same but things like the steering box is different. I.E. if you try to put a wide front form a B on a C you will turn the steering wheel left to go right. If I remember right the transmission are not the same either. They will swap out but the gear ratios are different.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Jocco

05-24-2017 16:07:57




Report to Moderator
 Re: Allis b and c questions for allis experts in reply to old, 05-24-2017 12:45:28  
Ok with others posting I am getting my answers I always wanted a c but not a b. Been around them some but no expert. Would really like an rc.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Traditional Farmer

05-24-2017 19:51:21




Report to Moderator
 Re: Allis b and c questions for allis experts in reply to Jocco, 05-24-2017 16:07:57  
Wish you'd of been around me awhile back I had a hard time getting $400 for a C that ran and operated good.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Jocco

05-25-2017 03:42:15




Report to Moderator
 Re: Allis b and c questions for allis experts in reply to Traditional Farmer, 05-24-2017 19:51:21  
Sorry about that that was an opportunity.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
old

05-24-2017 19:40:42




Report to Moderator
 Re: Allis b and c questions for allis experts in reply to Jocco, 05-24-2017 16:07:57  
I have 4 C on my place 2 are runners and 2 are parts machines. I did have a B many years ago but some one borrowed it with out permission and left it in the creek and it did not swim well



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
JMS/.MN

05-24-2017 08:55:33




Report to Moderator
 Re: Allis b and c questions for allis experts in reply to jocco, 05-24-2017 06:47:08  
They are different on each end. B typically has an arched front axle, and is made to straddle one row. Rear end is narrower than the C. C is a two row tractor.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
4wdtom

05-24-2017 07:21:43




Report to Moderator
 Re: Allis b and c questions for allis experts in reply to jocco, 05-24-2017 06:47:08  
The C is a two row tractor and the B a one row. The rear end of the C is wider, and if a wide front the front axle will be wider.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Aaron SEIA

05-24-2017 07:21:24




Report to Moderator
 Re: Allis b and c questions for allis experts in reply to jocco, 05-24-2017 06:47:08  
The final drives on a C sit wider. B was only narrow front but a C could be had with a wide front. Engine and tranny are the same.

AaronSEIA



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
chalmersbob(pa)

05-26-2017 23:57:32




Report to Moderator
 Re: Allis b and c questions for allis experts in reply to Aaron SEIA, 05-24-2017 07:21:24  
The B only came with a WIDE front axle, non-adjustable or adjustable.Adjustable wide fronts were special orders and came with the adjustable rearwheels like the C used.
The C came with a single front wheel, tricycle front or wide front.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Today's Featured Article - Major Problems - by Anthony West. Following the aquisition of the two Fordsons to my collection I found that I was struggling to move them about. I had considered the possibility of driving the "F" to and from shows but anything other than local rallies was totaly impractical due to its sedate pace. I had also considered buying a landrover and trailer, but the price of a ... [Read Article]

Latest Ad: 3 point drag arm for 420 HD crawler right side [More Ads]

Copyright © 1997-2020 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy