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WD-45 connecting rods

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jerkus730

01-14-2017 17:03:24




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Are WD-45 connecting rods the same as D-17 connecting rods?




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Kip-Utah

01-15-2017 22:09:57




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 Re: WD-45 connecting rods in reply to jerkus730, 01-14-2017 17:03:24  
It's true that the D17, Gleaner E, and later 226 cid engines have bigger mains than the WC/WD/WD45 engines. That's why you can't use these later cranks in WC/WD...but a WD45 crankshaft drops right in. All 201 and 226 engines use the same size rod bearings so all connecting rods from WC-175 are interchangeable.



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DrAllis

01-15-2017 16:04:24




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 Re: WD-45 connecting rods in reply to jerkus730, 01-14-2017 17:03:24  
Mains are 3 inch and thrust is the center on G-226/D-17. Mains are 2 1/2 inch and thrust on the front on W-201/W-226.



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Jr1983

01-16-2017 17:05:24




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 Re: WD-45 connecting rods in reply to DrAllis, 01-15-2017 16:04:24  
Thanks for the clarification.



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DrAllis

01-15-2017 15:22:58




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 Re: WD-45 connecting rods in reply to jerkus730, 01-14-2017 17:03:24  
WD45 and newer didn't use shims on the connecting rods. The rods will interchange between WD-45, D-17, 170, 175 and E Gleaner combines BUT, I would never use just one rod and mix it with three others. There were many different forging/casting numbers and I know the weights and heat treat was different between generations. Newer 1977 year rods were obviously a little stronger than 1953 model year rods, even tho the parts system will tell you they are all the same. So, if you're going to change, get four rods from the same donor engine.

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jerkus730

01-15-2017 17:19:47




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 Re: WD-45 connecting rods in reply to DrAllis, 01-15-2017 15:22:58  
Thank you Dr. Allis, you saved me again!



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Jr1983

01-15-2017 15:51:09




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 Re: WD-45 connecting rods in reply to DrAllis, 01-15-2017 15:22:58  
Am I wrong on the crank having different specs? I know a d17 crank won't fit in a WD block but don't remember why. I was thinking it was the main diameter and thrust bearing location.



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jerkus730

01-15-2017 09:03:52




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 Re: WD-45 connecting rods in reply to jerkus730, 01-14-2017 17:03:24  
The connecting rods I have now use shims



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4wdtom

01-15-2017 15:04:52




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 Re: WD-45 connecting rods in reply to jerkus730, 01-15-2017 09:03:52  
I believe the ones that use shims are older from a WC,WD. I think the 45s all had modern inserts that were sized right and no shimming was required. The old rods and block can be bored/reamed to accept the new no shim inserts. Automotive machine shop can do it.



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jerkus730

01-15-2017 08:59:55




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 Re: WD-45 connecting rods in reply to jerkus730, 01-14-2017 17:03:24  
The reason i'm asking is I saw some on ebay that the ad says they are the same,I just want to be sure before I bid on them. Here's what i'm trying to do, i'm getting my 201ci motor rebuilt and putting a 226ci bebuild kit in it,i got a WD45 crank for it and the guy that's doing the engine told me if we got WD45 connecting rods we wouldn't have to mess around with shims



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jr1983

01-15-2017 05:18:36




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 Re: WD-45 connecting rods in reply to jerkus730, 01-14-2017 17:03:24  
The crank specs are different. Is it just the mains?



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old

01-14-2017 18:45:35




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 Re: WD-45 connecting rods in reply to jerkus730, 01-14-2017 17:03:24  
Going by a catalog I have it says the WC, WD, WD45,and D-17 are the same rods if gas engine



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Gary from Iowa

01-14-2017 19:38:30




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 Re: WD-45 connecting rods in reply to old, 01-14-2017 18:45:35  
I would make sure that the crank end of the D17 rod had the same angle as the WD rod.



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