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WD45 reversed loader tractor

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05-01-2015 14:37:21

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I found a WD45 wfe for scrap price, and after fooling with it , after getting it home, It runs well, and the 2 clutches work well, and the tranny seems ok, and the steering is tighter than my other WD45. The rubber is 60 %, and it has original wheel weights on the rear, and loaded tires. I also have a really good DuAl loader, with PTO pump, that I have been using on my original WD45. I would like to explore putting togeather a reversed loader tractor, and would like to find pictures, of this application, and communicate with someone who has done this successfully. I think, that reversing the ring gear, will be the easiest part for me. Making the operators station, will be the hardest! There are 2 brakes 2 clutches, a steering wheel, a gas lever, a shifter, and seat to reverse. I am guessing that some self propelled combines, can provide some of the parts. Any one want to get involved??

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05-07-2015 13:27:27

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 Re: WD45 reversed loader tractor in reply to Ralphwd45, 05-01-2015 14:37:21  
I reversed a Super MTA, 20 Yrs ago, it takes some time, getting it the way you want it. I would definitely use a combine power steering system, and a Westendorf loader No 42, for example. It's nice and wide, and give the operator a little extra room, when sitting at the controls.

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05-08-2015 11:58:57

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 Re: WD45 reversed loader tractor in reply to fastfarmall, 05-07-2015 13:27:27  
Fastfarmall! That is why I am leaning toward using, my DuAl loader!, For one thing, it is a proven, good loader, and was very wide. I used it on my original WD45, and had to get creative, making mounts for it, being as the WD45 was a lot narrower. The unit is self contained, with a PTO pump, and the control valves, is all that needs to find a new home. This will go slower than I at first expected, because I am going to paint my way thru the build.If it turns out as good as I think it will, then I want it to also look good.

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05-02-2015 06:45:57

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 Re: WD45 reversed loader tractor in reply to Ralphwd45, 05-01-2015 14:37:21  
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Your location? Wanna look at mine? Ring gear flip is easy- just unbolt finals, pull axles, flip gear, reinstall everything. Op station is tougher, but I"d use a combine hydrostatic steering system if doing it again, rather than shafts and gears. Much simpler. Add a crankshaft driven hyd pump for independent hyd. email is open. Lots more pix.

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05-02-2015 11:02:38

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 Re: WD45 reversed loader tractor in reply to JMS/.MN, 05-02-2015 06:45:57  
JMS.MN! After looking at your pictures,I belive that you have the right idea, on the brake and clutch, switch over. The steering also makes sense, however I think that hydraulics, can work better. Have you ever got your pants cuff pinched in those steering gears? Looks possible! I would like to see the seat mounting better. Don't see the seat mounting. I am close to Tacoma Wa, but am thinking of running to Hendricks Mn. This spring, after planting. I want to walk thru Allstates at Hendricks and maybe pick up some stuff, for another job, may even drop down to Sikeston Mo, which has another Allstates, that I have been to in the past. If I make it out to Hendricks, I will probably contact you before leaving, to see what your schedule looks like! Wouldn't hurt to capture your unit on my sketch book.

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05-03-2015 09:18:14

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 Re: WD45 reversed loader tractor in reply to Ralphwd45, 05-02-2015 11:02:38  
Nope, never pinched...never thought about it, but would be easy to cover. Offset power steering from 15 series IH combine would make a nice unit. Seat is mounted on flat stock that goes down to the C channels.....you can find it in the pic...rusty iron.

I"m about two hours NE of Hendricks, between Litchfield and St. Cloud. I did my conversion in the late 70s...then there were guys in Hutchinson and Melrose who did them full time, so many units are around here. The clutch/brake setup is simple, with shaft running thru pipe for the crossover. Hand clutch is not used, handle removed.

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05-02-2015 06:47:32

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 Re: WD45 reversed loader tractor in reply to JMS/.MN, 05-02-2015 06:45:57  
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05-01-2015 17:06:52

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 Re: WD45 reversed loader tractor in reply to Ralphwd45, 05-01-2015 14:37:21  
Hi Ralph, The WF was built reversed and used as the basis for a loader built by a company called Tractormotive so it can be done. If I can locate a picture I will post it.Around here someplace...

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05-01-2015 19:34:11

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 Re: WD45 reversed loader tractor in reply to Chris(WA), 05-01-2015 17:06:52  
These are being featured in Hutchinson MN this year. This is my TL-W based on the WF tractor.

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