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AC D17 3 Pt Lift Problem

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64frd4000ind

04-13-2015 10:22:52




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Friend got a new to him D17, got it running pretty good, but the 3pt lift goes up, but can't get it to go back down.

I have always had Fords so I'm new to troubleshooting the AC.

Any Help will be appreciated, I will post some pictures this evening.




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64frd4000ind

04-16-2015 18:26:41




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 Re: AC D17 3 Pt Lift Problem in reply to 64frd4000ind, 04-13-2015 10:22:52  
Lift arms went down just like they are supposed to, neither of us knew about having to tilt the handle and pull down that extra bit.

Serial # is D17 65023, does that tell us anything other than a rough idea of when it was made?



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DrAllis

04-16-2015 19:13:39




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 Re: AC D17 3 Pt Lift Problem in reply to 64frd4000ind, 04-16-2015 18:26:41  
Series 3 with the dry type air filter and oval muffler.



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64frd4000ind

04-14-2015 16:32:10




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 Re: AC D17 3 Pt Lift Problem in reply to 64frd4000ind, 04-13-2015 10:22:52  
Where is the ser# located on an AC, I will try to get it tomorrow and maybe we can narrow down what year it is 'supposed' to be.



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Skyhighballoon(MO)

04-15-2015 07:57:35




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 Re: AC D17 3 Pt Lift Problem in reply to 64frd4000ind, 04-14-2015 16:32:10  
Left front side of the torque tube (foot clutch housing) where it bolts to the rear of the engine. Mike



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64frd4000ind

04-14-2015 16:26:43




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 Re: AC D17 3 Pt Lift Problem in reply to 64frd4000ind, 04-13-2015 10:22:52  
Not really sure, he paid 500 for a non-runner that was supposedly running when the guy parked it....

Came with a handful of 3pt attachments, a handful of spare parts, and a loader...

He called me over because he couldn't get it to start, it would crank, and just backfire. Flipped the dist cap(180 out, assume the PO had put in new points and got it on backwards and couldn't get it to start, hence the cheap sale) and she fired right up, runs fairly smooth.

He called me again, said the 3pt went right on up, just wouldn't go down.

I let him know about pushing the lever forward and then down another inch or so, he said he would give it a shot this evening.

I missed him at the house after work, could have something to do with me spending an hour or so picking mushrooms in the woods after work... :) Priorities!!!
This post was edited by 64frd4000ind at 16:28:09 04/14/15.

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Traditional Farmer

04-14-2015 23:57:51




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 Re: AC D17 3 Pt Lift Problem in reply to 64frd4000ind, 04-14-2015 16:26:43  
He got a great deal at $500 the pump problem can't be too bad and he has plenty of room to spend a little money on it if he has to.



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64frd4000ind

04-14-2015 09:00:47




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 Re: AC D17 3 Pt Lift Problem in reply to 64frd4000ind, 04-13-2015 10:22:52  
Will check it out after work, its the neighbors new tractor, he was just asking if I could help with it.

Told him I would see if I could get any pointers, thanks for the info.



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Traditional Farmer

04-14-2015 05:08:26




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 Re: AC D17 3 Pt Lift Problem in reply to 64frd4000ind, 04-13-2015 10:22:52  
Do the arms go down when the tractor isn't running? If so I'd check out the tractor booster linkage.Thats the lever behind the hydraulic control lever that works it.appears to be in the lowered position now but might have a linkage problem.Have you hooked something heavy to the 3pt to see if it raises by itself then?That'd be my next test.



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64frd4000ind

04-13-2015 22:00:31




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 Re: AC D17 3 Pt Lift Problem in reply to 64frd4000ind, 04-13-2015 10:22:52  
Here are the pics of the tractor, not sure what year/series it is.

Like I said, not familiar with the AC Tractors yet.

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Skyhighballoon(MO)

04-14-2015 06:56:38




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 Re: AC D17 3 Pt Lift Problem in reply to 64frd4000ind, 04-13-2015 22:00:31  
Looks to be Series I or II. Can't tell w/o knowing the serial number from just the pics you posted. It's also had front grill shroud/grill and fenders from a Series III or IV put on it and it has the wrong muffler on it. But on the hydraulics, the left underneath lever on the steering wheel is the hydraulics raise/lower. In the pictures it is in the hold position. Push the lever/down & forward and pull it down to about an 8 o'clock position from the 9 o'clock position it is in to lower it if you have not done that already. It will be much stiffer than moving it between hold & raise. The aftermarket 3 point may not be heavy enough to lower it by itself without and implement attached or someone standing on the lift arms. If this does not work, move the linkage and follow it to see that everything is connected to it. Also as suggested, the left topside lever is the traction booster and it needs to say in the down (9'oclock) position. Report back with more information once you try/confirm these. Mike

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Bob Bancroft

04-14-2015 14:12:31




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 Re: AC D17 3 Pt Lift Problem in reply to Skyhighballoon(MO), 04-14-2015 06:56:38  
And the belt drive power steering pump, and the long, sweeping air intake, as with a dry air cleaner. This one's really got me confused. Unless it was built out of pieces and parts?



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Skyhighballoon(MO)

04-13-2015 10:28:52




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 Re: AC D17 3 Pt Lift Problem in reply to 64frd4000ind, 04-13-2015 10:22:52  
Series IV D17? Different Hydraulics on a Series IV vs. the prior versions. Mike



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