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Question on Hi/Lo Range - D19

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02-21-2015 13:47:35

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I have a buddy with a D19. The Hi/Lo range works but there is no neutral position in the middle. Goes directly from lo to hi while using the lever. Do you guys know what the problem is?

Thanks for your response.

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Mike (WA)

02-22-2015 10:07:17

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 Re: Question on Hi/Lo Range - D19 in reply to wicksfield, 02-21-2015 13:47:35  
I don't believe they were ever built without the center "neutral" position- the whole point of the system was to give it a live PTO feature, which needed a neutral position for the power director lever.

The one I ran you had to use the foot brake in the center position of the Power Director lever, or it would creep. Used it mostly when baling- baler is getting slugged, you want to stop forward motion but not the baler- pull the lever to center, apply the foot brake so it won't creep.

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02-21-2015 18:47:43

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 Re: Question on Hi/Lo Range - D19 in reply to wicksfield, 02-21-2015 13:47:35  
There is a button on the top of the stick that releases a latch that is the neutral position. Without pressing on the button it should lock in neutral. You use the button to release it.
While in the neutral position in will creep if not under load. It is an oil bath clutch (or wet clutch)and the oil causes it to creep especially when cold. You can abuse the hi-lo must more that a dry clutch.It's good to start out with a heavy load on it instead of slipping the foot clutch. LOL Bob

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Traditional Farmer

02-21-2015 17:17:04

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 Re: Question on Hi/Lo Range - D19 in reply to wicksfield, 02-21-2015 13:47:35  
I own and use a D19 and have owned several others never really had one that the hand clutch when put in neutral would just stop like it was out of gear when it wasn't under a load.If you're hooked to something and its pulling the tractor should stop in neutral position.Its better than not having any neutral but its not like pushing in the foot clutch either.On the positive side its pretty reliable and don't give nearly as much problem as some of the under and over drives of the ear it was built.

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Bob Bancroft

02-21-2015 15:35:19

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 Re: Question on Hi/Lo Range - D19 in reply to wicksfield, 02-21-2015 13:47:35  
I'm a little hesitant to reply as it's been many years since I worked on one of these. Not only have I forgotten things, but there are so many more years on these machines probably different wear points are showing up. Wear on the trans. input shaft carrier bearing, yoke, linkage, etc. could all be contributing. But I think these are the two most likely scenarios- the total thickness of shims in that clutch needs to always be the same. When short shims are removed from either side, to tighten up a clutch pack, long shims of the same total thickness need to be put back in the middle. If clutch plates are warped from slipping, they can be warped enough, that they drag so badly as to not want to let the tractor stop. Cold weather and thick oil tend to do the same.

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