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Allis C / Allis CA transmissions

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andyin ct

04-30-2014 02:00:32




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Can I swap a 4 speed from a CA into a C? Thanks




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Dakota Dave

05-03-2014 20:00:44




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 Re: Allis C / Allis CA transmissions in reply to andyin ct, 04-30-2014 02:00:32  
The hydraulic pump on a CA is a high pressure system the henderson loader was designed to operate on the Charlynn Combo pump. It is a low pressure system. its also fairly low flow so you will have average operating speed. but you can overpressure the loader rams.I use a Allischalmers modle 100 on my CA the loader works fast enough for mee the cylinders are about the size of henderson loader rams but much sturdier.

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JMS/.MN

04-30-2014 07:33:49




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 Re: Allis C / Allis CA transmissions in reply to andyin ct, 04-30-2014 02:00:32  
Internals? no.



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andyin ct

04-30-2014 07:55:22




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 Re: Allis C / Allis CA transmissions in reply to JMS/.MN, 04-30-2014 07:33:49  
No - complete transmissions.



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Dick L

04-30-2014 08:56:57




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 Re: Allis C / Allis CA transmissions in reply to andyin ct, 04-30-2014 07:55:22  
Sure you can. I have a C with a CA transmission out back in my scrap yard. I plan using that transmission in one of my B's.



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steve(ill)

04-30-2014 15:53:33




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 Re: Allis C / Allis CA transmissions in reply to Dick L, 04-30-2014 08:56:57  
IF you retain a hydraulic system, the pump/ valve must be off the CA.. a B/C pump would not fit.



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bg/mo

04-30-2014 19:16:12




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 Re: Allis C / Allis CA transmissions in reply to steve(ill), 04-30-2014 15:53:33  
the whole pto hyd set up must be for a ca? or would complete pto unit from b/c work??



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Dick L

04-30-2014 19:33:03




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 Re: Allis C / Allis CA transmissions in reply to bg/mo, 04-30-2014 19:16:12  
If you want hydraulics it all has to be from a CA including the pto/belt pully housing. Then if you want hydraulics you will not use the (normal) B or C bench seat.



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Sam (Wi)

04-30-2014 19:57:39




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 Re: Allis C / Allis CA transmissions in reply to Dick L, 04-30-2014 19:33:03  
Would the CA hydraulics be good enough for a Henderson loader?



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Dick L

05-01-2014 04:13:31




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 Re: Allis C / Allis CA transmissions in reply to Sam (Wi), 04-30-2014 19:57:39  
The hydraulic pump is basically the same pump as the WC pump. I bought a non running CA with a Henderson loader mounted on it and it was hooked into the CA hydraulics. I took the loader off to repair the tractor but the loader still sets out in the scrap area and was never remounted to the tractor. I don't know how fast the loader lifted.



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steve(ill)

05-01-2014 15:21:36




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 Re: Allis C / Allis CA transmissions in reply to Dick L, 05-01-2014 04:13:31  
some of the CA rear lifts used two 1-1/2 inch cylinders... I would guess the front boom cylinders are comparable diameter and would be adequate for speed... Will not be too fast, but should work.



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