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pulling with gleaner engine

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Curt Courtney

04-24-2014 17:10:12




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so do the gleaner engines make a difference in a wd pulling tractor




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high octane

04-30-2014 06:52:53




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 Re: pulling with gleaner engine in reply to Curt Courtney, 04-24-2014 17:10:12  
for what ive seen, they do help vs a 201ci. slight modification to the 201s timing cover and water pump are required to fit a gleaner block. i was thinking the water manifold doesnt fit the gleaner head. youd have to cut the 201 crank pulley out so itll slide all the way on to the crank.



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Curt Courtney

04-26-2014 17:09:54




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 Re: pulling with gleaner engine in reply to Curt Courtney, 04-24-2014 17:10:12  
The club I would mostly pull with runs NATPA rules i would like to pull 4000 4500 div II



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Aaron SEIA

04-26-2014 12:07:31




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 Re: pulling with gleaner engine in reply to Curt Courtney, 04-24-2014 17:10:12  
Cubes are the same. What you would gain is higher compression, full pressure lube, and more rpm. Also have a stronger block and possibly a better cam. I asked this question in the external_link and really never got a good answer. It's a cheap way to go from WD45 power to strong D 17 power in about an hours work swapping engines. The club rules will dictate weather or not a Wd or WD45 can run with a Gleaner engine. Probably be ok as long as you don't place in the top 5. Seems to be the way all "grey area" tractors fall.

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big jt

04-25-2014 00:47:15




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 Re: pulling with gleaner engine in reply to Curt Courtney, 04-24-2014 17:10:12  
A qualified depends is the answer.

You are talking about the engine out of a E Gleaner. These were based on the late D17 engines and have similiar HP. The one I have on a pallet has a single speed governor. This means you idle the engine by bypassing the governor and closing the throttle manually. Other than that it should be pretty much a drop in switch.

HOWEVER there is another issue not so easily resolved. How strict are the rules where you pull? If you are required to have a original engine you are gonna have some major work. The outward appearance of the block will be a dead giveaway for those in the know. No tappet coverplate (this one is gonna be pretty much impossible to fix) Full flow oil filter, etc.

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4010 puller

04-26-2014 08:44:24




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 Re: pulling with gleaner engine in reply to big jt, 04-25-2014 00:47:15  
Isnt the cubic inch of a wd-45 and a d17 the same?



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patrickmull

04-27-2014 03:05:25




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 Re: pulling with gleaner engine in reply to 4010 puller, 04-26-2014 08:44:24  

4010 puller said: (quoted from post at 16:44:24 04/26/14) Isnt the cubic inch of a wd-45 and a d17 the same?
same as the 17 not the 45 but both are 226 ci i have measured there is a little more room in the bottom end
This post was edited by patrickmull at 03:06:39 04/27/14.

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