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dander3222

01-14-2013 16:09:41




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I just got wd45 for $200. I did not expect to much out of it.The hand clutch did not release very good. There was a pin missing from one of the 3 rollers that work the clutch. Put the pin back in and took out some shims and it is ok. With the smoke I thought the rings must be bad but a compression test was #1 155 #2 175 #3 175 #4 185. #4 plug was covered with oil other 3 were dry. With that high of compression where does the smoke come from. Can # 4 pump that much oil and still have that much compression?

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dander3222

01-15-2013 12:52:08




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 Re: WD 45 smokes in reply to dander3222, 01-14-2013 16:09:41  
Thanks for the coments. I have a lot of time so I will pull it apart and check it out.



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old

01-15-2013 13:05:59




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 Re: WD 45 smokes in reply to dander3222, 01-15-2013 12:52:08  
Before you pull it apart you might try an ATF treatment. Fill the cylinders with ATF and let sit a few days. Spin it over with the plugs back out, always put them back in to keep stuff out. Then fire it up and see how bad it might smoke. ATF frees up sticking parts and cleans up carbon. By the way you did not say what color the smoke is. If black the air cleaner maybe need some TLC or the carb choke is stuck closed or the carb set to rich. If white smoke that could be a head gasket. If blue then that is oil and could be valve guides

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Dick L

01-16-2013 07:02:58




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 Re: WD 45 smokes in reply to old, 01-15-2013 13:05:59  
Old, ATF could very well do the same as seafoam but I took this smoker that I used fewer than fiver hours a year, had every intention of overhauling, and is no longer a smoker. After a coupla hours usage I had to replace number four spark plug to stop the miss. I started using it more about three years ago and put a new can of seafoam in with an oil change. It has stopped smoking except a very little on start up. I worked over ten hours fitting ground last spring and again last fall. Since I worked it hard two years in a row without smoke I have not had to change plugs. I bought the (sorry red) Farmall C in 2002. The first oil change was like transmission grease. The oil now runs clean. The fellow I bought the tractor from said it has set for several years. Dirty wore out oil and setting apparently caused the oil rings to stick in and did not expand out tight against the cylinder walls or it would not have stopped smoking.

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It was smoking when used in the picture above.

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Kinda hard work for this size tractor. Made her pull down and snort in heavey hay.

Don't give up on a engine that seems sound and smokes after setting for a long period.

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ASEguy

01-21-2013 04:13:15




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 Re: WD 45 smokes in reply to Dick L, 01-16-2013 07:02:58  
I've always liked the looks of your farm and the quality of your tractor work.



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old

01-16-2013 08:46:21




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 Re: WD 45 smokes in reply to Dick L, 01-16-2013 07:02:58  
To me it does not matter if it is red green Orange gray or what since I have them all LOL. Never been a fan of seaform for a couple reason but the biggest is ATF cost a guy 1/3 of that of seaform



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WEL

01-15-2013 06:08:21




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 Re: WD 45 smokes in reply to dander3222, 01-14-2013 16:09:41  
Have never seen a stock 45 with compression that high. You have 30 lbs variation which is not good.



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Dick L

01-14-2013 17:34:53




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 Re: WD 45 smokes in reply to dander3222, 01-14-2013 16:09:41  
Put some seafoam in it as directed on the can and work the snot out of it. Might need to have a coupla extra plugs to replace a fouled plug until the oil rings loosens up.



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black

01-14-2013 17:34:30




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 Re: WD 45 smokes in reply to dander3222, 01-14-2013 16:09:41  
Wow !! 200 is a real bargain. I would change oil and use a heavy weight, then see what happens. I've seen diesel engines clear up with a oil change -- you could even have a bad spark plug



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Aaron SEIA

01-14-2013 17:02:27




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 Re: WD 45 smokes in reply to dander3222, 01-14-2013 16:09:41  
Could also be worn valve guides. They don't have stem seals, so loose valve stems in the guides can cause oil burning.

AaronSEIA



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BushogPapa

01-15-2013 15:13:44




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 Re: WD 45 smokes in reply to Aaron SEIA, 01-14-2013 17:02:27  
Ford-Type Umbrella Valve Seals can and should be installed whenever the springs are off..will NOT hurt a thing..

An oil change (10-30), Plus one Quart of Rislone and then some Hours Working might make a whale of a difference...

Ron..



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motorcraftman

01-14-2013 16:18:09




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 Re: WD 45 smokes in reply to dander3222, 01-14-2013 16:09:41  
That Compression is Impressive alright, but An Engine can still Burn oil and Have Good Comp, The Oil Control Ring is Prob Worn out.. larry



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