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08-24-2012 08:04:15

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My Allis C has an issue and I cant work out what it could be ? it starts fine and sounds good, but take it for a drive and after one mile or so it reves up starts knocking and stops,"its asif the engine has siezed" after 5 minutes or so it starts back up and will drive a little before repeating and stops, I thought it was the magnito and had it completely refurbished but with no avail, no water in the oil and no oil in the water and tempreture is normal when she stops.
Has eny one had this problem before ??
There is a wine in the gearbox probably the main bearing and I was wondering if this could be the problem if the bearing siezes up stoping the engine from turning and giving the impression that the engine has siezed ??
if the big ends are worn would this cause this problem ? or coulfd it be a stuck valve??
Your thouhts would be appreciated
John U.K

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john Owen Morris

08-25-2012 04:55:02

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 Re: Allis in reply to Drak, 08-24-2012 08:04:15  
hi i have found a Massey Ferguson 135 Engine 3 Cyl perkins diiesel, any one know if it will fit my allis with a few modifications ? just a thought !!!! may be one of you has some experience with this and can advise.
Thanks again to all for your help and advice......

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08-24-2012 19:38:00

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 Re: Allis in reply to Drak, 08-24-2012 08:04:15  
1. pull the oil filter off, and check to see if the spear, that pumps oil into the top of the filter is there. With out the spear, it won't build pressure.
2. Drop the oil pan, and see if the oil suction screen is blocked, or has an obstruction, that blocks it, when said obstruction is sucked up against it. While you have it apart, check the suction pipe for looseness, and the bearings, for evidence of wear.

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Dick L

08-24-2012 11:28:59

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 Re: Allis in reply to Drak, 08-24-2012 08:04:15  
My son had a truck that had that happen. He said the red light came on and then it started knocking and quit. He said it started back up and the oil light stayed on. He was able to drive it to a station and filled it back up with oil but the red light wouldn't stay off when it was full of oil.
I told him he had one thing missing and that was a recording hooked up so when the light came on it would say (Hey Boy, you just screwed up)

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08-24-2012 13:09:18

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 Re: Allis in reply to Dick L, 08-24-2012 11:28:59  
That reminds me of the lady who walked into a gas station a number of years back. She told us that the red light came on and than all at once the car died and could we go and fix it for her. The red light was the oil light and when towed in the dip stick did not show so much as a drop of oil on it and when we drained the pan it had less then a quart of oil and we said yep we can fix it but it would take 2 weeks and cost $2500 or more

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08-24-2012 10:40:04

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 Re: Allis in reply to Drak, 08-24-2012 08:04:15  
How's the oil pressure? I had that happen one time to a C that hadn't ran in years. The oil pump had lost it's prime.

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08-24-2012 08:57:41

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 Re: Allis in reply to Drak, 08-24-2012 08:04:15  
Drain your oil and I bet you will see a silver shimmer to it and that being bearing grit from a bearing going out on the crank shaft

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08-24-2012 08:46:35

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 Re: Allis in reply to Drak, 08-24-2012 08:04:15  
Knocking and seizing sounds like a bad bearing on the crank. Look to that before the crank is ruined beyond repair. Might already be if you"ve done it more than once.

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08-24-2012 11:05:04

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 Re: Allis in reply to JMS/.MN, 08-24-2012 08:46:35  
Thank every one for all your advice, I am not home at the momment but will do as you advise and check the crank shells, can i change the bearings without removing the engine (just remove the oil pan) or is it advisable to remove the engine.
I was also thinking may be find a diesel engine any one done this ??

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08-24-2012 11:55:44

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 Re: Allis in reply to Drak, 08-24-2012 11:05:04  
You can replace rod journal bearings without removing the engine, but you may have a main bearing out......that necessitates engine removal.

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