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d 17 rear wheels stuck

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jack sullivan

05-18-2012 12:34:15




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d 17 i think the rearend is locked up transmission shifts all gears work when hand clutch is in nuetral,when you let the clutch out it kills the engine losend the brake pads , no help. it in the field what can i loosen so i can tow it to the house




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hd6gtom

05-21-2012 13:49:43




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 Re: d 17 rear wheels stuck in reply to jack sullivan, 05-18-2012 12:34:15  
Jack I once broke a shift rail. They are located on the bottom of the transmission cover. Tractor stopped, was 16 at the time and the Ac dealer came out and fixed it. As these other guys say, It still sounds like your shifter lever is worn out on the bottom end and let the tranny go into 2 gears at the same time.



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jack sullivan

05-19-2012 06:16:16




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 Re: d 17 rear wheels stuck in reply to jack sullivan, 05-18-2012 12:34:15  
if i put the tranny in any gear let the clutch out engine dies. however if the hand clutch is in nuetral it dosn't die. so the hand clutch must be after the tranny.



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Tramway guy

05-18-2012 19:27:58




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 Re: d 17 rear wheels stuck in reply to jack sullivan, 05-18-2012 12:34:15  
The engine kills with power director in neutral? You werent clear about that...



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jack sullivan

05-19-2012 04:55:08




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 Re: d 17 rear wheels stuck in reply to Tramway guy, 05-18-2012 19:27:58  
with hand clutch in nuetral, all the gears in the tranmission work. so i assume the hand clutch is after the transmission.are there two adjustment on the brake pads ,one for top shoe and one for bottom shoe?



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old

05-19-2012 10:33:54




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 Re: d 17 rear wheels stuck in reply to jack sullivan, 05-19-2012 04:55:08  
On that tractor things are like this. You have the engine, then the engine clutch then the hand clutch then the transmission then the rear end. With the hand clutch in neutral yes the engine would not die since it is disconnected from the drive train when in neutral. Now with the hand clutch engaged then yes if the transmission is stuck in 2 gears then yep let the engine clutch up and yep it would kill the engine due to the locked up transmission which is more likely then a broken rear end. Seen more then one transmission lock up in 2 gears but still feel like you could shift gears and that is why I said jack it up and do the wheel turn thing to tell you if it is the rear end or transmission

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jack sullivan

05-19-2012 16:51:23




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 Re: d 17 rear wheels stuck in reply to old, 05-19-2012 10:33:54  
you are right on, for some reason i thought the high low hand clutch was after the tranny,took the tran cover off shifted all gears in nuetral using a screwdrivertranny turned perfect, tryed every gear both clutchs engage tractor won't move engine dies. wonder how much a d 17 weighs?both rear ends on d17and wd45 look the same are any of the parts interchangable?



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old

05-19-2012 17:32:47




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 Re: d 17 rear wheels stuck in reply to jack sullivan, 05-19-2012 16:51:23  
Don't think the WD45 and the D-17 use much if any of the same parts but who knows A/C did do a few things like that in some tractor and that caused problems



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Brian G. NY

05-19-2012 06:06:02




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 Re: d 17 rear wheels stuck in reply to jack sullivan, 05-19-2012 04:55:08  
Are you sure the shifter lever is really shifting the tranny in all the gears?
Sounds like the tranny is locked in two gears which happens when the shifter end gets worn.
I've had that happen on my WD and WD-45 on numerous occasions. I had to pull the shifter lever out and reset the shift sliders in the tranny with a long screwdriver.
I finally "smartened up" and welded up and restored the shifter ends on both tractors.
My D-17 has no shifting problems; knock on wood!

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old

05-18-2012 17:32:32




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 Re: d 17 rear wheels stuck in reply to jack sullivan, 05-18-2012 12:34:15  
If you can jack up both wheels where it sits and see if you can then turn them. If one goes froward and the other back ward the problem is not in the rear end but could be that the transmission is stuck in 2 gears



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