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Allis B Steel wheels

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Mike Farmer

02-04-2012 07:56:47




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Hi. I need a drawing or some pics of an Allis B steel front wheel. I got one in need of serious restoration but the centre is non existant so i need info as to how to rebuild it.
Anyone able to help would be really appreciated. Mike




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D13series2

02-11-2012 02:47:12




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 Re: Allis B Steel wheels in reply to Mike Farmer, 02-04-2012 07:56:47  
I'll send you a PM (modern view).

well maybe not, it appears PM doesn't work yet. Email me at d13series2@yahoo.com.
This post was edited by D13series2 at 02:49:00 02/11/12.



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mtyount

02-10-2012 12:43:23




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 Re: Allis B Steel wheels in reply to Mike Farmer, 02-04-2012 07:56:47  
Mike, nice repair work on the rears. Are those the original cleats? Every B or C with rear steel I've seen has solid cleats. Is it possible yours are from a WC? Either way, nice work... I have a set that needs almost the exact same repair. And I could use one of the solid cleats if you happen to have any.



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MNLonnie

02-05-2012 05:59:42




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 Re: Allis B Steel wheels in reply to Mike Farmer, 02-04-2012 07:56:47  
Looks like you did a nice job on the rears but I don't know how you would make the center for the fronts. There are quite a few B/C's out there with rubber tire rims welded to steel wheel centers, if you could find a pair of those you would be set. The dimension of the center is 7" diameter and 4" wide. Hope that helps.



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Mike Farmer

02-05-2012 06:25:03




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 Re: Allis B Steel wheels in reply to MNLonnie, 02-05-2012 05:59:42  
Thanks thats a good start point. Is that 7" ID or OD. What I'll do is try to re-jig the rim to ensure that its 'true' then go from there.
So final question at this stage what is the OD of the actual wheel rim and the width. Thanks again. Mike



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MNLonnie

02-05-2012 06:29:28




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 Re: Allis B Steel wheels in reply to Mike Farmer, 02-05-2012 06:25:03  
Center is 7" OD and the rim is 22" X 4".



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Mike Farmer

02-05-2012 09:58:00




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 Re: Allis B Steel wheels in reply to MNLonnie, 02-05-2012 06:29:28  
Thanks again. I'm seriously thinking of making some new ones(LOL). I certainly can't cast new centres so I guess I'll have to have a clear thought or several on that. No doubt I'll have more questions on this one. Mike



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steve(ill)

02-05-2012 14:25:41




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 Re: Allis B Steel wheels in reply to Mike Farmer, 02-05-2012 09:58:00  
sure looks to me like you could take a 2 inch heavy wall pipe and turn the ID both ends to put bearing outer race into it. The outside looks like a piece fo 6 inch heavy wall pipe. THe two weld together with a flat plate like a washer... Looks like a good weekend project to build one !



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Mike Farmer

02-06-2012 00:52:14




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 Re: Allis B Steel wheels in reply to steve(ill), 02-05-2012 14:25:41  
Thats generally my thoughts at the moment. Just need a bit of refining then I'll give it a go. My actual way will be probably heavy wall pipe with a half inch flat plate welded inside then drill it to bolt onto existing hubs (drill it first of course). Time is not essential. Mike



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Mike Farmer

02-05-2012 01:28:21




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 Re: Allis B Steel wheels in reply to Mike Farmer, 02-04-2012 07:56:47  
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Thanks very much for info so far. OK. Here is the full situation. I have got the spokes and part of outer rim. What I really needed to was how the centre was made. I was hoping the cente bolted to the normal hub . But I can see thats wrong I see that it appears to be a casting. So I shall use this one and make a new centre to bolt on. Someone care to tell me the exact diameter. i hate to see something as important as these old parts just thrown away. I'll try to upload some pics of a pair of rears I.ve just finished even made a batch of square headed bolts I think thats what they left the factory with. Thanks again Mike

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MNLonnie

02-04-2012 18:49:18




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 Re: Allis B Steel wheels in reply to Mike Farmer, 02-04-2012 07:56:47  
Hey "which part is missing?", if he doesn't need the caps I could sure use them for my other set of steel.



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which part is missing?

02-04-2012 15:55:39




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 Re: Allis B Steel wheels in reply to Mike Farmer, 02-04-2012 07:56:47  
Are you missing the spokes, the hub, or the grease covers? I think I have a correct set of covers around here. If memeory serves the WC/WD parts don't work on the B/C.



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MNLonnie

02-04-2012 14:43:31




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 Re: Allis B Steel wheels in reply to Mike Farmer, 02-04-2012 07:56:47  
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If the center is gone I'm not sure what you would do, it's the rim that is usually missing. Here are pics of B/C front steel.

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